netdev - RE: [PATCH] xps-mq: Transmit Packet Steering for multiqueue

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Message-ID: <D3F292ADF945FB49B35E96C94C2061B90D0670F8@nsmail.netscout.com>
Date:	Thu, 2 Sep 2010 12:18:43 -0400
From:	"Loke, Chetan" <Chetan.Loke@...scout.com>
To:	"Stephen Hemminger" <shemminger@...tta.com>,
	"David Miller" <davem@...emloft.net>
Cc:	<therbert@...gle.com>, <eric.dumazet@...il.com>,
	<netdev@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: RE: [PATCH] xps-mq: Transmit Packet Steering for multiqueue

> Just to be contrarian :-) This same idea had started before when IBM
> proposed a user-space NUMA API.  It never got any traction, the
concept
> of "lets make the applications NUMA aware" never got accepted because
> it is so hard to do right and fragile that it was the wrong idea
> to start with. The only people that can manage it are the engineers
> tweeking a one off database benchmark.
> 

If you design an appliance then this would be one of the knobs that
people tinker with. To reap the actual benefits the whole stack(from
adapter's f/w to the userland-thread) needs to be astro-aligned. Almost
all the user-space guys that I've talked to never got it right because
they never understood the concepts behind NUMA-IOH-Mempolicy-MSI-X etc. 
So it's a little difficult for them to get it right the first time.
Also, Stoakley/Nehalem rigs got into mainstream ~2-3 years back? Before
that only a handful of engineers could experiment because the mobo's
were expensive. Plus, you didn't really have 10G fabric then.

Chetan

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