netdev - Re: [PATCH V2] Use firmware provided index to register a network interface

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Message-ID: <20101007171532.GA29857@kroah.com>
Date:	Thu, 7 Oct 2010 10:15:32 -0700
From:	Greg KH <greg@...ah.com>
To:	Kay Sievers <kay.sievers@...y.org>
Cc:	Matt Domsch <Matt_Domsch@...l.com>, Narendra_K@...l.com,
	netdev@...r.kernel.org, linux-hotplug@...r.kernel.org,
	linux-pci@...r.kernel.org, Jordan_Hargrave@...l.com,
	Vijay_Nijhawan@...l.com, Charles_Rose@...l.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH V2] Use firmware provided index to register a network
 interface

On Thu, Oct 07, 2010 at 07:05:14PM +0200, Kay Sievers wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 18:48, Greg KH <greg@...ah.com> wrote:
> > On Thu, Oct 07, 2010 at 11:31:13AM -0500, Matt Domsch wrote:
> >> 1) SMBIOS type 41 method.  Windows does not use this today, and I
> >>    can't speak to their future plans.  Narendra's kernel patch does,
> >>    as has biosdevname, the udev helper we first wrote for this
> >>    purpose, for several years.
> >
> > Then stick with that udev helper please :)
> 
> What about just exporting this information in sysfs, and not touch the naming?

I think this is now exported in userspace, right Narendra?

> Anyway, I'm pretty sure all of this naming of onboard devices should
> happen only at install time, or from a system management tool and not
> at hotplug time.
> 
> We should not get confused by the way the (very simple)
> automatic-rule-creater for persistent netdev naming in udev works.
> This is really just a tool for the common case, and works fine for the
> majority of people.
> 
> I'm not sure, if we should put all these special use cases in the
> hotplug path. I mean it's not that people add and remove 4 port
> network cards with special BIOS all the time, and expect proper naming
> on the first bootup, right? The installer, or the system management
> tool could just create/edit udev rules to provide proper device naming
> on whatever property is available at a specific hardware, be it the
> MAC address or some other persistent match?

I totally agree.

thanks,

greg k-h
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