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Date:	Sun, 14 Nov 2010 00:21:40 -0700
From:	Marcos <stalkingtime@...il.com>
To:	netdev@...r.kernel.org
Cc:	Stephen Guerin <stephen@...omplex.org>
Subject: Fwd: a Great Idea - include Kademlia networking protocol in kernel -- REVISITED

[Fwd from [linux-kernel], thought I'd follow the suggestion to post
this to netdev:]

After seeing some attention this idea generated in the linux press,
I'd like to re-visit this suggestion.  I'm a nobody on this list, but
do have some expertise in complex systems (i.e. complexity theory).

The Kademlia protocol is simple: it has four commands (and won't
likely grow more): PING, STORE, FIND_NODE, FIND_VALUE.
It is computationally effortless: it generates random node id's and
computes distance on a distributed hash table using an simple XOR
function.
It is (probably optimally) efficient:  O(log(n)) for n nodes.
Ultimately, it could increase security: by creating a system for
tracking trusted peers, a new topology of content-sharing can be
generated.

[From the (kademlia) wikipedia article]: "The first generation peer-to-peer file
sharing networks, such as Napster, relied on a central database to
co-ordinate look ups on the network. Second generation peer-to-peer
networks, such as Gnutella, used flooding to locate files, searching
every node on the network. Third generation peer-to-peer networks use
Distributed Hash Tables to look up files in the network. Distributed
hash tables store resource locations throughout the network. A major
criterion for these protocols is locating the desired nodes quickly."

Putting a simple, but robust p2p network layer in the kernel offers
several novel and very interesting possibilities.

1. Cutting-edge cool factor:  It would put linux way ahead of the
net's general evolution to an full-fledged "Internet Operating
System".  The world needs an open source solution over Google's,
Microsoft's (or any other's) attempt to create such a solution.
Dismiss any attempts to see such a request as warez-d00ds looking to
make a more efficient pirating network.

2. Lower maintenance:  Though unification, it would simplify the many
(currently disparate) linux solutions for large-scale aggregation of
computational and storage resources that are distributed across many
machines.  Additionally, NFS (the networking protocol that *IS* in the
kernel) is stale, has high administrative and operational overhead,
and is not made to scale to millions of shared nodes in a graph
topology.

3. Excite a new wave of Linux development:  90% of linux machines are
on the net, but don't utilize the real value of peer connectivity
(which can grow profoundly faster than Metcalf's N^2 "value of the
network" law).  Putting p2p in kernel space communicates to every
developer that linux is serious about creating a unified and complete
solution for creating such a infrastructure.  Let the cloud
applications and such be in user space, but keep the main
connection-tracking in the kernel.   Such a move would make for many
(unforeseeable) complex emergent behaviors and optimizations to arise
-- see Wikipedia on Reed's Law for a sense of it (to wit: "even if the
utility of groups available to be joined is very small on a peer-group
basis, eventually the network effect of potential group membership ...
dominate[s] the overall economics of the system").

Consider, for example, social networking: it is an inherently p2p
structure and is lying in wait to explode the next wave of internet
evolution and new-value generation.  There's no doubt that this is the
trend of the future -- best that open source be there first.  Users
are creating value on their machines *every day*, but there's little
infrastructure to take advantage of it.  Currently, it's either lost
or exploited.  Solution and vision trajectories:  Diaspora comes to
mind, mash-up applications like Photosynth aggregating the millions of
photos on people's computers (see the TED.com presentation), open
currencies and meritocratic market systems using such a "meta-linux"
as a backbone, etc. -- whole new governance models for sharing content
would undoubtedly arise.  HTTP/HTML is too much of an all-or-nothing
and coarse approach to organizing the world's content.  The net needs
a backbone for sharing personal content and grouping it to create new
abstractions and wealth.  See pangaia.sourceforge.net for some of
ideas I've personally been developing.

Anyway, I'm with hp_fk on this one.  Ignore at the peril and risk of
the future...  :)

marcos
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