netdev - Re: Adding Support for SG,GSO,GRO

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Message-ID: <1291921115.2647.28.camel@bwh-desktop>
Date:	Thu, 09 Dec 2010 18:58:35 +0000
From:	Ben Hutchings <bhutchings@...arflare.com>
To:	Michał Mirosław <mirqus@...il.com>
Cc:	"Govindarajan, Sriramakrishnan" <srk@...com>,
	"netdev@...r.kernel.org" <netdev@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Adding Support for SG,GSO,GRO

On Thu, 2010-12-09 at 19:47 +0100, Michał Mirosław wrote:
> 2010/12/9 Ben Hutchings <bhutchings@...arflare.com>:
> > On Thu, 2010-12-09 at 16:03 +0530, Govindarajan, Sriramakrishnan wrote:
> >> Hi
> >> We have a NAPI compliant driver(net/drivers/davinci_emac.c), that does
> >> well at 10/100Mbps loads. Now the same controller/driver is used for
> >> 1000Mbps
> >> mode as well, where the CPU gets saturated easily
> >>
> >> Internally the module supports scatter gather DMA(which is currently not
> >> exercised) but there is no HW checksum support.
> >>
> >> To specifically implement GRO, GSO support would it be sufficient to add
> >> SG support to the driver? Are there other means of increasing the throughput
> >> and decreasing the CPU loading?
> [...]
> > On the TX side, NETIF_F_SG means that the stack may include data in the
> > skb by reference to arbitrary pages *even if their contents are still
> > being changed* (think sendfile()), which means it depends on hardware
> > checksum generation.
> 
> Isn't that condition too broad? If the data could change after packet
> is submitted to the driver then results would be unpredictable and
> allow sending wrong data with correct (because hw-calculated)
> checksum.

This is not done for a regular send(), only for functions such as
sendfile() which are specified to read the data asynchronously.

> Right now NETIF_F_SG is removed from dev->features by
> netdev_fix_features() if no checksum offloads are enabled.
> 
> Just an idea: would driver with NETIF_F_SG|NETIF_F_HW_CSUM using
> skb_checksum_help() in xmit path work? This would allow to use DMA
> scatter-gather without hardware checksumming (and avoid copying the
> packet's data before sending).

No, you cannot calculate a checksum for the fragments without also
copying them to ensure the data doesn't change afterward and invalidate
the checksum.  You could in theory make a copy into multiple fragments,
but there's no point in doing that unless the frame size is larger than
a page.

Ben.

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