netdev - Re: [stable] [RFC] ipv6: don't flush routes when setting loopback down

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Message-ID: <20110123091531.GQ12837@1wt.eu>
Date:	Sun, 23 Jan 2011 10:15:32 +0100
From:	Willy Tarreau <w@....eu>
To:	Stephen Hemminger <shemminger@...tta.com>
Cc:	jbohac@...e.cz, yoshfuji@...ux-ipv6.org, netdev@...r.kernel.org,
	stable@...nel.org, stephen.hemminger@...tta.com,
	ebiederm@...ssion.com, brian.haley@...com, lorenzo@...gle.com,
	David Miller <davem@...emloft.net>, maheshkelkar@...il.com
Subject: Re: [stable] [RFC] ipv6: don't flush routes when setting loopback down

[ first, is there a reason we have stable@ CCed on this thread ? ]

On Sun, Jan 23, 2011 at 07:26:24PM +1100, Stephen Hemminger wrote:
> > You are probably so upset because I stepped on code you worked hard
> > on. But the IPv6 semantics should not have been different from IPv4
> > and the disable_ipv6 flag was a poor API choice as well. Legacy
> > API's suck, I don't expect perfection but it should be possible
> > to make a working version that:
> > 
> > Allows disabling IPv6 completely on an interface
> > AND Has the same address and route semantics for both
> > IPv4 and IPv6.
> 
> Also for application sanity, Linux should behave the same as BSD

Stephen,

while I agree with all the points you made, David is right in that we
can't use a fix for a bug as a justification for breaking something
that worked for other people. It simply means that everything that was
merged since the first regression was introduced should be reverted
and reworked until a more satisfying solution is found.

Otherwise users lose trust and you have to deal with much more cases
when users report issues.

If the bug is caused by a deep design issue, then maybe a development
branch should be dedicated to it so that the persons affected by it
can track its evolution and report some feedback.

Regards,
Willy

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