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Date:	Sun, 20 Feb 2011 22:01:00 -0800
From:	Philip Prindeville <>
To:	Benny Amorsen <>
CC:	David Miller <>,,
Subject: Re: [PATCH] ipv4: add DiffServ priority based routing

On 3/12/10 3:18 AM, Benny Amorsen wrote:
> David Miller<>  writes:
>> Look, this doesn't work.  QoS handling and policy belongs in the
>> egress point to the network, it's the only way to control this
>> properly and prevent abuse.
> First, QoS is important even within the network. Modern switches come
> pre-configured with sane defaults which ensure that e.g. EF marked
> packets get priority over non-EF-marked packets. Cisco, HP, and
> Linksys-Cisco at least provide a decent out-of-the-box configuration.
> This can obviously be abused, but the solution there is the same as in
> network abuses: Either apply the LART or change the configuration of the
> switches to be less trusting. We haven't, so far, had a customer where
> the LART was necessary, much less had to reconfigure a switch.
> So why not let Linux provide the same out-of-the-box experience as the
> switches do? If the trust is abused Linux provides lots of tools to make
> it less trusting or even to punish the abusers.
> /Benny

For those who want to use DiffServ as the out-of-the-box default configuration, and trust the marking on their traffic, I don't understand why certain folks are so adamant about not supporting this.

Torsten's patch to allow rt_tos2priority() to use IPTOS_PRECEDENCE() instead seemed reasonable.

Especially in a network using 802.1p or 802.1q encapsulation.

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