netdev - Re: [PATCH 2/2] virtio_net: remove send completion interrupts and avoid TX queue overrun through packet drop

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Date:	Thu, 24 Mar 2011 10:46:49 -0700
From:	Shirley Ma <mashirle@...ibm.com>
To:	"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@...hat.com>
Cc:	Rusty Russell <rusty@...tcorp.com.au>,
	Herbert Xu <herbert@...dor.hengli.com.au>, davem@...emloft.net,
	kvm@...r.kernel.org, netdev@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] virtio_net: remove send completion interrupts and
 avoid TX queue overrun through packet drop

On Thu, 2011-03-24 at 16:28 +0200, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 11:00:53AM +1030, Rusty Russell wrote:
> > > With simply removing the notify here, it does help the case when TX
> > > overrun hits too often, for example for 1K message size, the single
> > > TCP_STREAM performance improved from 2.xGb/s to 4.xGb/s.
> > 
> > OK, we'll be getting rid of the "kick on full", so please delete that on
> > all benchmarks.
> > 
> > Now, does the capacity check before add_buf() still win anything?  I
> > can't see how unless we have some weird bug.
> > 
> > Once we've sorted that out, we should look at the more radical change
> > of publishing last_used and using that to intuit whether interrupts
> > should be sent.  If we're not careful with ordering and barriers that
> > could introduce more bugs.
> 
> Right. I am working on this, and trying to be careful.
> One thing I'm in doubt about: sometimes we just want to
> disable interrupts. Should still use flags in that case?
> I thought that if we make the published index 0 to vq->num - 1,
> then a special value in the index field could disable
> interrupts completely. We could even reuse the space
> for the flags field to stick the index in. Too complex?
> > Anything else on the optimization agenda I've missed?
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > Rusty.
> 
> Several other things I am looking at, wellcome cooperation:
> 1. It's probably a good idea to update avail index
>    immediately instead of upon kick: for RX
>    this might help parallelism with the host.
Is that possible to use the same idea for publishing last used idx to
publish avail idx? Then we can save guest iowrite/exits.

> 2. Adding an API to add a single buffer instead of s/g,
>    seems to help a bit.
> 
> 3. For TX sometimes we free a single buffer, sometimes
>    a ton of them, which might make the transmit latency
>    vary. It's probably a good idea to limit this,
>    maybe free the minimal number possible to keep the device
>    going without stops, maybe free up to MAX_SKB_FRAGS.

I am playing with it now, to collect more perf data to see what's the
best value to free number of used buffers.

> 4. If the ring is full, we now notify right after
>    the first entry is consumed. For TX this is suboptimal,
>    we should try delaying the interrupt on host.

> More ideas, would be nice if someone can try them out:
> 1. We are allocating/freeing buffers for indirect descriptors.
>    Use some kind of pool instead?
>    And we could preformat part of the descriptor.
> 2. I didn't have time to work on virtio2 ideas presented
>    at the kvm forum yet, any takers?
If I have time, I will look at this.

Thanks
Shirley


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