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Date:	Wed, 18 May 2011 18:47:46 +0300
From:	"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@...hat.com>
To:	Shirley Ma <mashirle@...ibm.com>
Cc:	Michał Mirosław <mirqus@...il.com>,
	Ben Hutchings <bhutchings@...arflare.com>,
	David Miller <davem@...emloft.net>,
	Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@...il.com>,
	Avi Kivity <avi@...hat.com>, Arnd Bergmann <arnd@...db.de>,
	netdev@...r.kernel.org, kvm@...r.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH V5 2/6 net-next] netdevice.h: Add zero-copy flag in
 netdevice

On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 07:38:27AM -0700, Shirley Ma wrote:
> On Wed, 2011-05-18 at 13:40 +0200, Michał Mirosław wrote:
> > >> >> Not more other restrictions, skb clone is OK. pskb_expand_head()
> > looks
> > >> >> OK to me from code review.
> > >> > Hmm. pskb_expand_head calls skb_release_data while keeping
> > >> > references to pages. How is that ok? What do I miss?
> > >> It's making copy of the skb_shinfo earlier, so the pages refcount
> > >> stays the same.
> > > Exactly. But the callback is invoked so the guest thinks it's ok to
> > > change this memory. If it does a corrupted packet will be sent out.
> > 
> > Hmm. I tool a quick look at skb_clone(), and it looks like this
> > sequence will break this scheme:
> > 
> > skb2 = skb_clone(skb...);
> > kfree_skb(skb) or pskb_expand_head(skb);  /* callback called */
> > [use skb2, pages still referenced]
> > kfree_skb(skb); /* callback called again */
> > 
> > This sequence is common in bridge, might be in other places.
> > 
> > Maybe this ubuf thing should just track clones? This will make it work
> > on all devices then.
> 
> The callback was only invoked when last reference of skb was gone.
> skb_clone does increase skb refcnt. I tested tcpdump on lower device, it
> worked.

Right, it will normally work, but two issues I think you miss:
1. malicious guest can change the memory between when it is sent out by
   device and consumed by tcpdump, so you will see different things
   (not sure how important this is).
2. if tcpdump stops consuming stuff from the packet socket (it's
   userspace, can't be trusted) then we won't get a callback for
   page potentially forever, guest networking will get blocked etc.

> For the sequence of:
> 
> skb_clone  -> last refcnt + 1
> kfree_skb() or pskb_expand_head -> callback not called
> kfree_skb() -> callback called
> 
> I will check page refcount to see whether it's balanced.
> 
> Thanks
> shirley


pskb_expand_head is a problem anyway I think as it
can hang on to pages after it calls release_data.
Then guest will modify these pages and you get trash there.

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MST
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