netdev - Re: [PATCH 1/3] vlan: Do not support clearing VLAN_FLAG_REORDER

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Message-ID: <4DD97A44.2020708@candelatech.com>
Date:	Sun, 22 May 2011 14:04:04 -0700
From:	Ben Greear <greearb@...delatech.com>
To:	"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@...ssion.com>
CC:	David Miller <davem@...emloft.net>, Jiri Pirko <jpirko@...hat.com>,
	Nicolas de Pesloüan 
	<nicolas.2p.debian@...il.com>, Changli Gao <xiaosuo@...il.com>,
	netdev@...r.kernel.org, shemminger@...ux-foundation.org,
	kaber@...sh.net, fubar@...ibm.com, eric.dumazet@...il.com,
	andy@...yhouse.net, Jesse Gross <jesse@...ira.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/3] vlan: Do not support clearing VLAN_FLAG_REORDER_HDR

On 05/22/2011 12:39 PM, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
>
> Simplify the vlan handling code by not supporing clearing of
> VLAN_FLAG_REORDER_HDR.  Which means we always make the vlan handling
> code strip the vlan header from the packets, and always insert the vlan
> header when transmitting packets.
>
> Not stripping the vlan header has alwasy been broken in combination with
> vlan hardware accelleration.  Now that we are making everything look
> like accelerated vlan handling not stripping the vlan header is always
> broken.
>
> I don't think anyone actually cares so simply stop supporting the broken
> case.

I've lost track of the VLAN code a bit.  Is there any documentation
somewhere about what happens in these various cases:

*  Open a raw packet socket on eth0.
   *  Do we get tagged VLAN packets?  (I'd expect yes.)
   *  If we sent a tagged VLAN packet, it's sent without modification?  (I'd expect yes.)
   **  Without "yes" to the two above, one cannot do user-space bridging properly.

*  Open a raw packet socket on VLAN eth0.5
   *  Do we get tagged VLAN packets?  (I'd expect no.)
   *  If we send an un-tagged packet, I expect it would be tagged?
   *  What if we sent a tagged packet with same VID?
   *  With different VID?

Many years ago we supported the REORDER, but we suggested disabling
it for most users because it was a performance drag.  Funny that now
it seems to be the opposite!

Thanks,
Ben

-- 
Ben Greear <greearb@...delatech.com>
Candela Technologies Inc  http://www.candelatech.com
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