netdev - Re: [PATCHv2 10/14] virtio_net: limit xmit polling

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Message-ID: <OF2D4A7890.FFA91132-ON6525789A.0043E0AC-6525789A.00464690@in.ibm.com>
Date:	Tue, 24 May 2011 18:20:35 +0530
From:	Krishna Kumar2 <krkumar2@...ibm.com>
To:	"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@...hat.com>
Cc:	Christian Borntraeger <borntraeger@...ibm.com>,
	Carsten Otte <cotte@...ibm.com>, habanero@...ux.vnet.ibm.com,
	Heiko Carstens <heiko.carstens@...ibm.com>,
	kvm@...r.kernel.org, lguest@...ts.ozlabs.org,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, linux-s390@...r.kernel.org,
	linux390@...ibm.com, netdev@...r.kernel.org,
	Rusty Russell <rusty@...tcorp.com.au>,
	Martin Schwidefsky <schwidefsky@...ibm.com>, steved@...ibm.com,
	Tom Lendacky <tahm@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	virtualization@...ts.linux-foundation.org,
	Shirley Ma <xma@...ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCHv2 10/14] virtio_net: limit xmit polling

"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@...hat.com> wrote on 05/24/2011 04:59:39 PM:

> > > > Maybe Rusty means it is a simpler model to free the amount
> > > > of space that this xmit needs. We will still fail anyway
> > > > at some time but it is unlikely, since earlier iteration
> > > > freed up atleast the space that it was going to use.
> > >
> > > Not sure I nderstand.  We can't know space is freed in the previous
> > > iteration as buffers might not have been used by then.
> >
> > Yes, the first few iterations may not have freed up space, but
> > later ones should. The amount of free space should increase
> > from then on, especially since we try to free double of what
> > we consume.
>
> Hmm. This is only an upper limit on the # of entries in the queue.
> Assume that vq size is 4 and we transmit 4 enties without
> getting anything in the used ring. The next transmit will fail.
>
> So I don't really see why it's unlikely that we reach the packet
> drop code with your patch.

I was assuming 256 entries :) I will try to get some
numbers to see how often it is true tomorrow.

> > I am not sure of why it was changed, since returning TX_BUSY
> > seems more efficient IMHO.
> > qdisc_restart() handles requeue'd
> > packets much better than a stopped queue, as a significant
> > part of this code is skipped if gso_skb is present
>
> I think this is the argument:
> http://www.mail-archive.com/virtualization@lists.linux-
> foundation.org/msg06364.html

Thanks for digging up that thread! Yes, that one skb would get
sent first ahead of possibly higher priority skbs. However,
from a performance point, TX_BUSY code skips a lot of checks
and code for all subsequent packets till the device is
restarted. I can test performance with both cases and report
what I find (the requeue code has become very simple and clean
from "horribly complex", thanks to Herbert and Dave).

> > (qdisc
> > will eventually start dropping packets when tx_queue_len is
>
> tx_queue_len is a pretty large buffer so maybe no.

I remember seeing tons of drops (pfifo_fast_enqueue) when
xmit returns TX_BUSY.

> I think the packet drops from the scheduler queue can also be
> done intelligently (e.g. with CHOKe) which should
> work better than dropping a random packet?

I am not sure of that - choke_enqueue checks against a random
skb to drop current skb, and also during congestion. But for
my "sample driver xmit", returning TX_BUSY could still allow
to be used with CHOKe.

thanks,

- KK

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