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Message-ID: <4DFE129E.1010800@gmail.com>
Date:	Sun, 19 Jun 2011 10:15:42 -0500
From:	Rob Herring <robherring2@...il.com>
To:	Grant Likely <grant.likely@...retlab.ca>
CC:	Shawn Guo <shawn.guo@...escale.com>, patches@...aro.org,
	netdev@...r.kernel.org, devicetree-discuss@...ts.ozlabs.org,
	Jason Liu <jason.hui@...aro.org>, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	Jeremy Kerr <jeremy.kerr@...onical.com>,
	Sascha Hauer <s.hauer@...gutronix.de>,
	linux-arm-kernel@...ts.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/3] serial/imx: add device tree support

On 06/19/2011 10:05 AM, Grant Likely wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 1:30 AM, Shawn Guo <shawn.guo@...escale.com> wrote:
>> On Sat, Jun 18, 2011 at 10:19:34AM -0600, Grant Likely wrote:
>>> On Sat, Jun 18, 2011 at 11:19:12PM +0800, Shawn Guo wrote:
>>>> It adds device tree data parsing support for imx tty/serial driver.
>>>>
>>>> Signed-off-by: Jeremy Kerr <jeremy.kerr@...onical.com>
>>>> Signed-off-by: Jason Liu <jason.hui@...aro.org>
>>>> Signed-off-by: Shawn Guo <shawn.guo@...aro.org>
>>>> Cc: Sascha Hauer <s.hauer@...gutronix.de>
>>>> ---
>>>>  .../bindings/tty/serial/fsl-imx-uart.txt           |   21 +++++
>>>>  drivers/tty/serial/imx.c                           |   81 +++++++++++++++++---
>>>>  2 files changed, 92 insertions(+), 10 deletions(-)
>>>>  create mode 100644 Documentation/devicetree/bindings/tty/serial/fsl-imx-uart.txt
>>>>
>>>> diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/tty/serial/fsl-imx-uart.txt b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/tty/serial/fsl-imx-uart.txt
>>>> new file mode 100644
>>>> index 0000000..7648e17
>>>> --- /dev/null
>>>> +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/tty/serial/fsl-imx-uart.txt
>>>> @@ -0,0 +1,21 @@
>>>> +* Freescale i.MX Universal Asynchronous Receiver/Transmitter (UART)
>>>> +
>>>> +Required properties:
>>>> +- compatible : should be "fsl,<soc>-uart", "fsl,imx-uart"
>>>
>>> I'd make this "fsl,<soc>-uart", "fsl,imx51-uart"
>>>
>>> It's better to anchor these things on real silicon, or a real ip block
>>> specification rather than something pseudo-generic.  Subsequent chips,
>>> like the imx53, should simply claim compatibility with the older
>>> fsl,imx51-uart.
>>
>> It is a real IP block on all imx silicons (except imx23 and imx28
>> which are known as former stmp).
>>
>>>
>>> (in essence, "fsl,imx51-uart" becomes the generic string without the
>>> downside of having no obvious recourse when new silicon shows up that
>>> is an imx part, but isn't compatible with the imx51 uart.
>>>
>> In this case, should imx1 the ancestor of imx family than imx51
>> becomes part of that generic string?  Claiming uart of imx1, imx21
>> and imx31 (senior than imx51) compatible with the imx51 uart seems
>> odd to me.
>>
>> That said, IMO, "fsl,imx-uart" stands a real IP block specification
>> here and can be a perfect generic compatibility string to tell the
>> recourse of any imx silicon using this IP.
> 
> Yes, but which /version/ of the IP block?  Hardware designers are
> notorious for changing hardware designs for newer silicon, sometimes
> to add features, sometimes to fix bugs.  While I understand the
> temptation to boil a compatible value down to a nice clean generic
> string, doing so only works in a perfect world.  In the real world,
> you still need to have some information about the specific
> implementation.  I prefer this specifying it to the SoC name, but I've
> been known to be convinced that specifying it to the ip-block name &
> version in certain circumstances, like for IP blocks in an FPGA, or
> some of the Freescale powerpc pXXXX SoCs which actually had an IP
> block swapped out midway through the life of the chip.
> 

There are definitely uart changes along the way with each generation.

> Besides, encoding an soc or ip block version into the 'generic'
> compatible values is not just good practice, it has *zero downside*.
> That's the beauty of the compatible property semantics.  Any node can
> claim compatibility with an existing device.  If no existing device
> fits correctly, then the node simple does not claim compatibility.
> Drivers can bind to any number of compatible strings, so it would be
> just fine for the of_match_table list to include both "fsl,imx-21" and
> "fsl,imx-51" (assuming that is the appropriate solution in this case).
> 

Don't you need uart or serial in here somewhere.

Rob
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