netdev - Re: Re: [PATCH] MAINTAINERS: Remove Sven Eckelmann from BATMAN ADVANCED

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Message-ID: <28453742.RFlbu1Gcpv@sven-desktop.home.narfation.org>
Date:	Wed, 22 Jun 2011 09:41:45 +0200
From:	Sven Eckelmann <sven@...fation.org>
To:	David Miller <davem@...emloft.net>
Cc:	netdev@...r.kernel.org, b.a.t.m.a.n@...ts.open-mesh.org
Subject: Re: Re: [PATCH] MAINTAINERS: Remove Sven Eckelmann from BATMAN ADVANCED

On Tuesday 21 June 2011 14:35:15 David Miller wrote:
> From: Sven Eckelmann <sven@...fation.org>
> Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 15:13:03 +0200
> 
> > I cannot speak on behalf of the batman-adv developers due to conflicts
> > in the opinion about the ongoing development. The batman-adv module is
> > still maintained by Marek Lindner and Simon Wunderlich. Those are the
> > main persons behind the visions of batman-adv. Therefore, the state of
> > module hasn't changed.
> > 
> > Signed-off-by: Sven Eckelmann <sven@...fation.org>
> > Cc: b.a.t.m.a.n@...ts.open-mesh.org
> 
> You have to be kidding me.

Thanks for the warm welcome :)

> All of this effort was placed to get this thing merged into the
> main tree, and then moved out of staging.

"Shooting the messenger" - I think that is the matching phrase. Just try to 
grep my name in the net/batman-adv/ and you will see it nowhere. The problem 
is that I am probably the most unimportant person in the whole project. But at 
least I was good enough to send some patches around which were accepted or 
made by other people. I was also not the person behind the whole Linux-merge 
thing, but only some kind of marionette.

> And now you're just going to give up and jump ship and take exactly
> zero responsibility for that burdon you've placed upon us?

This is your interpretation. I would say that I don't take zero responsibility 
for the stuff which is not yet part of the tree (of course still take 
responsibilities for the stuff with my name in it). I never said that 
completely run away, but that I am no longer the person which is send to the 
enemy general to bring bad news. Desertion to the enemy or bringing bad news - 
the end result for me is the same.

At least I tried to only do only one step backwards instead of running 
silently away in the night never to be seen again.

> You make me feel like a real idiot for sticking around and maintaining
> the Linux networking for more than 15 years.  Maybe 13 years ago I
> should have stepped down just because I disagreed with a few other
> people.

Sry, never wanted to say that it is bad to disagree with other people or that 
you are a bad person/maintainer.

Disagreeing with everyone else and pushing your opinion until the end against 
anybody makes the person a dictator (could be a good or bad one). Disagreeing 
with everyone and not being man enough to stand for it makes me a moron.

Maybe I am an incompetent idiot, but at least this time I stand behind my 
opinion. Please think everything bad about me, but not that I didn't try to 
explain my position instead of going into stealth mode (which would have been 
a lot easier solution).

thanks,
	Sven
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