netdev - Re: [PATCH v2 00/46] Clean up RX copybreak and DMA handling

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Message-ID: <1310387795.8783.94.camel@localhost>
Date:	Mon, 11 Jul 2011 13:36:35 +0100
From:	Ben Hutchings <bhutchings@...arflare.com>
To:	David Miller <davem@...emloft.net>
Cc:	mirq-linux@...e.qmqm.pl, netdev@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 00/46] Clean up RX copybreak and DMA handling

On Sun, 2011-07-10 at 23:54 -0700, David Miller wrote:
> From: Michał Mirosław <mirq-linux@...e.qmqm.pl>
> Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 02:52:46 +0200 (CEST)
> 
> >   1. under packet storm and memory pressure NIC keeps generating interrupts
> >      (if non-NAPI) and indicating new buffers because it always has free
> >      RX buffers --- this only wastes CPU and bus bandwidth transferring
> >      data that is going to be immediately discarded;
> 
> Actually, this is exactly how I, and others advise people to implement
> drivers.  It is the right thing to do.
> 
> The worst thing that can happen is to let the RX ring empty of
> buffers.  Some cards hang as a result of this, and also it causes head
> of line blocking on multiqueue cards, etc.

The controllers you are familiar with might do head-of-line blocking
when a single RX queue is empty.  But any multiqueue controller that is
supposed to support untrusted queues (required for SR-IOV) had better
not.  This is certainly not done on Solarflare controllers (packets for
that queue just get dropped until it's refilled) and I doubt it's done
on many others.

I also think it's quite reasonable for the RX queue to stop interrupting
when the host is already too busy to refill it.  Some drivers might not
recover correctly, but this is not a hardware issue.

> So the first thing the driver should do is try to allocate a
> replacement buffer.
> 
> And if that fails, it should give the RX packet right back to the
> card, and not pass it up the stack.

I agree this is a reasonable and generic way to deal with empty RX
queues.

Ben.

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Ben Hutchings, Senior Software Engineer, Solarflare
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