netdev - Re: [PATCH v2 net-next] af_unix: dont send SCM

lists.openwall.net		lists / announce owl-users owl-dev john-users john-dev passwdqc-users yescrypt popa3d-users / oss-security kernel-hardening musl sabotage tlsify passwords / crypt-dev xvendor / Bugtraq Full-Disclosure linux-kernel linux-netdev linux-ext4 linux-hardening linux-cve-announce PHC
Open Source and information security mailing list archives

Hash Suite: Windows password security audit tool. GUI, reports in PDF.

[<prev] [next>] [<thread-prev] [thread-next>] [day] [month] [year] [list]

Date:	Thu, 22 Sep 2011 09:15:26 -0700
From:	tim <tim.c.chen@...el.com>
To:	Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@...il.com>
Cc:	Valdis.Kletnieks@...edu, Tim Chen <tim.c.chen@...ux.intel.com>,
	David Miller <davem@...emloft.net>, zheng.z.yan@...el.com,
	yanzheng@...n.com, netdev@...r.kernel.org, sfr@...b.auug.org.au,
	jirislaby@...il.com, sedat.dilek@...il.com, alex.shi@...el.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 net-next] af_unix: dont send SCM_CREDENTIALS by
 default

On Tue, 2011-09-20 at 06:16 +0200, Eric Dumazet wrote:
> Le lundi 19 septembre 2011 à 22:10 -0400, Valdis.Kletnieks@...edu a
> écrit :
> > On Mon, 19 Sep 2011 14:39:58 PDT, Tim Chen said:
> > > Do we have to worry about the case where peer socket changes its flag
> > > to SOCK_PASSCRED while packets are in flight?  If there isn't such
> > > pathological use case, the patch looks fine to me.
> > 
> > I wouldn't think so - if you're sending a packet, and retroactively trying to
> > change the flag and expect it to work, your program is too ugly to live.  After
> > all, if the scheduler had cut off your timeslice and scheduledthe receiving
> > process before you set the flag, that packet would be delivered and done with
> > anyhow, and no amount of wishing will set that flag on an already-delivered
> > packet.
> > 
> > What *is* worth checking is that we DTRT if a process/thread is doing a send on
> > one CPU, and another process/thread with a shared file descriptor for that
> > socket is diddling the flag.  But if we just define it as "atomic op to change
> > the flag and other observers get whatever value their CPU sees at that
> > instant", I'm OK with that too.. ;)
> > 
> 
> Note : The man page does states :
> 
> "To receive a struct ucred message the SO_PASSCRED option  must  be
> enabled  on  the socket."
> 
> But it doesnt say if the SO_PASSCRED option must be enabled before the
> sender sends its message, or before receiver attempts to read it.
> 
> Once a message is queued on an unix socket, flipping SO_PASSCRED cant
> change its content (adding or removing credentials), since sender might
> already have disappeared.
> 
> So current code includes credentials in all sent messages, just in case
> receiver actually fetch credentials.
> 
> There are probably programs that assume they can set SO_PASSCRED right
> before calling recvmsg(). Are we taking risk to break them, or are we
> gentle and provide a sysctl option to ease the transition, I dont
> know...
> 

Should we reconsider the original approach of reducing the
pid/credential references, with your fixes to correct its flaws in the
streaming msg case?

Tim


--
To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe netdev" in
the body of a message to majordomo@...r.kernel.org
More majordomo info at  http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html