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Date:	Mon, 07 Nov 2011 11:21:17 -0500
From:	Chris Siebenmann <cks@...toronto.edu>
To:	netdev@...r.kernel.org
cc:	cks@...toronto.edu
Subject: Bug? GRE tunnel periodically won't transmit some packets

 I have a weird problem where a GRE tunnel periodically won't transmit
some (TCP) packets, while at the same time it will transmit others just
fine. This is happening in the current kernel.org git head kernel as
well as earlier ones.

 The networking environment is a GRE tunnel over IPSec in tunnel mode
('esp/tunnel/...') over a DSL PPPoE link. What I observe is that
periodically outbound SSH connections stall early in the protocol
negociation, and other TCP connections can similarly stall. Sometimes
they recover and sometimes they time out. The problem is pretty
reproducable and regular, although not constant (sometimes the affected
packets get through right away).

 I have tcpdump'd both the GRE tunnel device and the underlying DSL
PPPoE device and during a stall, the GRE tcpdump will show packets being
sent that do not appear on the DSL PPPoE link. All of the packets that
I've seen stalling have had 500 data octets.

Typical packets are:
	IP 128.100.3.52.52063 > 128.100.3.51.ssh: Flags [.], seq 22:522, ack 22, win 91, options [nop,nop,TS val 143020 ecr 966040433], length 500

(here 128.100.3.52 is the GRE tunnel IP address of the machine
experiencing problems)

or ttcp:
	IP 128.100.3.52.46585 > 128.100.3.51.5001: Flags [.], seq 1:501, ack 1, win 91, options [nop,nop,TS val 729200 ecr 979199256], length 500

Ttcp had a whole run of 'length 500' packets fail to go through. SSH
will actually successfully transmit later (different-length) packets,
eg:
	128.100.3.52.52063 > 128.100.3.51.ssh: Flags [P.], seq 522:926, ack 22, win 91, options [nop,nop,TS val 143037 ecr 966040450], length 404

 The DSL PPPoE link has an MTU of 1492 and the GRE tunnel has an MTU of
1200 (on both ends). As far as I can tell they do pass packets of this
size. *However*, on kernels that display this problem tracepath and 'ip
route show table cache' both report that the GRE tunnel has a path MTU
of 854 going from 128.100.3.52 to 128.100.3.51; however, 128.100.3.51
sees a pmtu of 1200 for the path to 128.100.3.52.

 The machine experiencing these problems is a 64-bit x86_64 Fedora 15
machine with various kernels. The problem does not happen with the
current Fedora 14 kernel (nominally 2.6.35.14); it does happen with the
Fedora 15 kernel ('2.6.40.6' aka some version of 3.0.0), the Fedora 16
kernel (some version of 3.1.0) and on the current kernel.org git head
as of last night. I am not running NetworkManager; all networking is
statically configured and not changing during operation, and my IPSec
setup is statically keyed[*].

 I would be happy to run any debugging tests or give any further
information that people want. Should I try a different kernel git
repo than Linus's kernel.org one?

 Thanks in advance.

(While I'm reading the mailing list I'm not directly subscribed to it,
so copying me on replies will make sure that I see them immediately.)

	- cks
[*: I'm aware that this is not ideal from a security perspective since
    it relies on me manually rekeying everything every so often.]
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