netdev - Re: [net-next RFC PATCH 5/5] virtio-net: flow director support

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Message-ID: <4EDF47D9.1090501@redhat.com>
Date:	Wed, 07 Dec 2011 19:02:49 +0800
From:	Jason Wang <jasowang@...hat.com>
To:	Sridhar Samudrala <sri@...ibm.com>
CC:	Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@...il.com>, krkumar2@...ibm.com,
	kvm@...r.kernel.org, mst@...hat.com, netdev@...r.kernel.org,
	rusty@...tcorp.com.au, virtualization@...ts.linux-foundation.org,
	levinsasha928@...il.com, bhutchings@...arflare.com
Subject: Re: [net-next RFC PATCH 5/5] virtio-net: flow director support

On 12/06/2011 11:42 PM, Sridhar Samudrala wrote:
> On 12/6/2011 5:15 AM, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote:
>> On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 10:21 AM, Jason Wang<jasowang@...hat.com>  wrote:
>>> On 12/06/2011 05:18 PM, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote:
>>>> On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 6:33 AM, Jason Wang<jasowang@...hat.com>    
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> On 12/05/2011 06:55 PM, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote:
>>>>>> On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 8:59 AM, Jason Wang<jasowang@...hat.com>
>>>>>>   wrote:
>>>> The vcpus are just threads and may not be bound to physical CPUs, so
>>>> what is the big picture here?  Is the guest even in the position to
>>>> set the best queue mappings today?
>>>
>>> Not sure it could publish the best mapping but the idea is to make 
>>> sure the
>>> packets of a flow were handled by the same guest vcpu and may be the 
>>> same
>>> vhost thread in order to eliminate the packet reordering and lock
>>> contention. But this assumption does not take the bouncing of vhost 
>>> or vcpu
>>> threads which would also affect the result.
>> Okay, this is why I'd like to know what the big picture here is.  What
>> solution are you proposing?  How are we going to have everything from
>> guest application, guest kernel, host threads, and host NIC driver
>> play along so we get the right steering up the entire stack.  I think
>> there needs to be an answer to that before changing virtio-net to add
>> any steering mechanism.
>>
>>
> Yes. Also the current model of  a vhost thread per VM's interface 
> doesn't help with packet steering
> all the way from the guest to the host physical NIC.
>
> I think we need to have vhost thread(s) per-CPU that can handle 
> packets to/from physical NIC's
> TX/RX queues. Currently we have a single vhost thread for a VM's i/f 
> that handles all the packets from
> various flows coming from a multi-queue physical NIC.

Even if we have per-cpu workthread, only one socket is used to queue the 
packet then, so a multiple queue(sockets) tap/macvtap is still needed.
>
> Thanks
> Sridhar
>

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