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Date:	Wed, 08 Feb 2012 01:42:04 -0500
To:	Kay Sievers <>
Cc:	Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <>,
	Jiri Slaby <>,
	"Eric W. Biederman" <>,
	Greg KH <>, LKML <>,
	ML netdev <>
Subject: Re: network regression: cannot rename netdev twice

On Wed, 08 Feb 2012 04:50:15 +0100, Kay Sievers said:

> After years of working in that area I will stop to work on these hacks
> to promise stable ethX names. It was just wrong, like enumerations
> always are in hotplug setups.

So (real world case) I've got a server that's got a 1G ethernet connected to
the public net, a 1G ethernet that's a cluster management network, and
a 10G ethernet that connects to our HPC clusters.

And I want to add iptables rules that distinguish based on interface. Currently
I can nail the management net to eth0, the public net to eth1, and the 10G to
eth2, and then just add "-i eth1" or whatever in the iptables ruleset.

I really don't care if the 0/1/2 move around - but if we're not having nailed-down
interface names, what will take the place of '-i ethN' in iptables?

> People who need predictable interface names should just manually
> configure custom/descriptive names, or names which are reliably
> derived from the hardware, like firmware-provided names or the pci
> slot number.

Or is this sort of thing in /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
SUBSYSTEM=="net", ACTION=="add", DRIVERS=="?*", ATTR{address}=="00:25:90:0b:f2:80", ATTR{type}=="1", KERNEL=="eth*", NAME="eth0"
what you are trying to move to, and my systems are already onboard and
I should just move along, nothing to see here? ;)

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