Message-ID: <4F33FC0E.4020701@msgid.tls.msk.ru>
Date:	Thu, 09 Feb 2012 21:02:06 +0400
From:	Michael Tokarev <mjt@....msk.ru>
To:	netdev <netdev@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: 3.0: unexpected route cache entry for wrong segment?

Hello.

I'm observing a situation when just one single IP
address from entirely different segment gets routed
locally as if it were in a directly-connected network.

Here's how.  The short version, to show the idea, first:

A host with single eth0 interface and single IP address
(not counting loopback interface):

$ ip addr
8: eth0: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast state UP qlen 1000
    link/ether 52:54:c0:a8:b1:02 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
    inet 192.168.177.2/26 scope global eth0

$ ip route
default via 192.168.177.5 dev eth0
192.168.177.0/26 dev eth0  proto kernel  scope link  src 192.168.177.2

$ ip neigh
...
192.168.177.5 dev eth0 lladdr 00:90:27:30:6d:1c REACHABLE
192.168.177.33 dev eth0 lladdr 38:60:77:25:3f:95 REACHABLE
192.168.19.166 dev eth0  FAILED
192.168.177.21 dev eth0 lladdr 52:54:c0:a8:b1:15 REACHABLE

The address in question is this 192.168.19.166 -- it should
not be tried on locally connected ethernet segment, but instead
should go to the (default) gateway at 192.168.177.5.

This machine is running 3.0.18 kernel.  The gateway (also
running this kernel) can access the IP in question just fine
(it is 2 hops away from the gateway, not reachable directly
neither from the gw nor from the machine in question).

After some searching we found a very very similarly looking
issue:

 http://lists.openwall.net/netdev/2011/11/15/126
  "Unable to flush ICMP redirect routes in kernel 3.0+"

with a good reproducer:

 http://lists.openwall.net/netdev/2011/11/16/138

The issue however is that, in our case, I can't reproduce
this problem at all using the way described by Ivan Zahariev
in the last message: sending redirects from the geateay for
"random" addresses does not make corresponding "persistent"
cache entries, once the route on the gw gets removed, that
IP address starts working again from the machine in question.

So now we have only one IP address that behaves like this,
and I can't get other addresses to repeat its behavour.

The problem appeared suddenly, while the network was in
use.

What is also interesting here is that the gateway should
never send a redirect like that because it has explicit
route for that network pointing to entirely different
machine.

I can work around the _current_ problem we're facing by
moving the host in question (192.168.19.166) to another
IP address.  But I'd love to understand what's going on
here.

Also, it appears that the patch that emerged from the
mentioned discussion hasn't been released in any
stable kernels so far - is there some issue with it?

And since I can't reproduce the issue here as described
above, I've one more question: should it be reproducible?

And finally, here's some more details about our setup.
It is actually a "bit" more complex, involving bridges,
vlans, veth and tap devices.

The "host" in question is a lxc guest on veth interface.
Its veth iface is connected to a bridge "tls-br" on the
host.  I'm omiting some details still (like other lxc
guests which have very similar config, and also kvm
guests with tap interfaces).

 host$ ip addr
 2: eth0: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast state UP qlen 1000
     link/ether 00:1f:c6:ef:e5:1b brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
 3: tls-vlan@...0: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 1500 qdisc noqueue master tls-br state UP
     link/ether 00:1f:c6:ef:e5:1b brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
 4: tls-br: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 1500 qdisc noqueue state UP
     link/ether 00:1f:c6:ef:e5:1b brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
     inet 192.168.177.15/26 brd 192.168.177.63 scope global tls-br
 9: veth-tsrv: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST,PROMISC,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast master tls-br state UP qlen 1000
     link/ether 5e:e8:4f:67:80:17 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff

tls-br connects tls-vlan@...0 and veth-tsrv.  It has an
address from the same 192.168.177/26 segment as the guest
in question.

 host$ ip route
 default via 192.168.177.5 dev tls-br
 192.168.177.0/26 dev tls-br  proto kernel  scope link  src 192.168.177.15
 (this is a complete routing table, there's no more routes)

What is also very interesting is that this problem with
this single IP address affects ALL lxc machines on this
host at once, and the host itself:

 host$ ip neigh
 192.168.177.35 dev tls-br lladdr 6c:f0:49:9d:f2:0c STALE
 192.168.19.166 dev tls-br  FAILED
 192.168.177.38 dev tls-br lladdr 38:60:77:25:3f:9c STALE
 192.168.177.5 dev tls-br lladdr 00:90:27:30:6d:1c DELAY
 ...

(after trying to ping it).

Each "subdivision" on this host has its own arp table, but
every subdivision (host itself or any of it lxc guests which
all have similar config) always tries to reach thiis very
IP address directly.

 otherLXCguest$ ip n
 192.168.19.166 dev eth0  INCOMPLETE
 192.168.177.15 dev eth0 lladdr 00:1f:c6:ef:e5:1b STALE
 192.168.177.5 dev eth0 lladdr 00:90:27:30:6d:1c DELAY

So.. it looks like something does not work right across
namespaces.

Any clue what's going on?

Thank you!

/mjt
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