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Date:	Tue, 28 Feb 2012 16:24:47 +0100
From:	Javier Martinez Canillas <>
To:	David Lamparter <>
CC:	Rodrigo Moya <>,
	David Miller <>,,,,,,,,,
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/10] af_unix: add multicast and filtering features to

On 02/28/2012 03:28 PM, David Lamparter wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 11:47:39AM +0100, Rodrigo Moya wrote:
>> > - slow readers: dropping packets vs blocking the sender. Although
>> >   datagrams are not reliable on IP, datagrams on Unix sockets are
>> never
>> >   lost. So if one receiver has its buffer full the sender is blocked
>> > instead of dropping packets. That way we guarantee a reliable
>> > communication channel.
> This sounds like a terribly nice way to f*ck the entire D-Bus system by
> having one broken (or malicious) desktop application. What's the
> intended way of coping with users that block the socket by not reading?
> -David L.

The problem is that D-bus expects a reliable transport method (TCP or
SOCK_STREAM Unix socks) but this is not the case with multicast Unix
sockets. Since our implementation is for SOCK_SEQPACKET and SOCK_DGRAM
socket types.

So, you have to either add another layer to the D-bus protocol to make
it reliable (acks, retransmissions, flow control, etc) or avoid losing
D-bus messages (by blocking the sender if one of the receivers has its
buffer full).

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