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Date:	Sat, 10 Mar 2012 08:31:28 -0800
From:	Mitar <>
To:	Benjamin LaHaise <>
Cc:, Nejc Skoberne <>,
	Jernej Kos <>,
Subject: Re: Ethernet-over-UDP virtual network interface


On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 8:11 AM, Benjamin LaHaise <> wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 06, 2012 at 12:58:44AM +0100, Mitar wrote:
>> I would like something state-less. I see L2TPv3 has support for
> How stateless?

Stateless in the ethernet-like manner: each incoming packet is simply
decapsulated and seen as it came over the (virtual) ethernet wire.

Of course this is because I have one implementation of our needs in my
head. Probably stateless is not necessary if everything is done
automatically. But what I am saying is that it could be even
stateless, something very very simple (and efficient). That we do not
need state/sessions (on a tunnel level, of course on the IP level of
packets send around then network kernel can (and should) keep state).
Not much CPU computation, not much memory copying, no user-space
context switching.

The idea is that we need a very simple solution, robust, no
encryption, no authentication. Just to improve the throughput on
consumer routers (today with N protocol you can easily have 15Mbit/s+
links and with fiber to tunnel them further this means that CPU is
often a bottleneck).

As I see there is no simple (both in implementation and configuration
manner) solution to this problem yet? Would it be then interesting to
develop such kernel module as I described in my initial post? Is there
any chance of it being accepted into the kernel?

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