netdev - Re: iptables CLAMP MSS to PMTU not working?

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Message-ID: <20120716105546.14a6490d@vostro>
Date:	Mon, 16 Jul 2012 10:55:46 +0300
From:	Timo Teras <timo.teras@....fi>
To:	Steffen Klassert <steffen.klassert@...unet.com>
Cc:	"David S. Miller" <davem@...emloft.net>, netdev@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: iptables CLAMP MSS to PMTU not working?

On Mon, 16 Jul 2012 09:23:05 +0200 Steffen Klassert
<steffen.klassert@...unet.com> wrote:

> On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 09:20:58AM +0300, Timo Teras wrote:
> > On Mon, 16 Jul 2012 08:49:46 +0300 Timo Teras <timo.teras@....fi>
> > wrote:
> > 
> > > Looking at the changelog, this would likely be side effect of:
> > > 
> > > commit 261663b0ee2ee8e3947f4c11c1a08be18cd2cea1
> > > Author: Steffen Klassert <steffen.klassert@...unet.com>
> > > Date:   Wed Nov 23 02:14:50 2011 +0000
> > > 
> > >     ipv4: Don't use the cached pmtu informations for input routes
> > > 
> > > At least from performance side, it would be better if CLAMPMSS to
> > > PMTU would clamp to the learned, cached mtu.
> > 
> > Actually, this is worse. Since XFRM is ignored - it breaks
> > fragmentation for IPsec targets.
> > 
> > Could this be reverted?
> 
> I did this patch to avoid to propagate learned PMTU informations.
> It restores the behaviour we had before we moved the PMTU informations
> to the inetpeer. Unfortunately CLAMPMSS really wants to have the PMTU
> informations of an input route, which is not possible any more after
> this patch.
>
> Anyway, this patch seems to be obsolete in the net-next tree, as
> the cached pmtu informations are back in the route. So we should
> remove the check for an output route from ipv4_mtu() in the net-next
> tree. This should bring CLAMPMSS back to work, at least for upcoming
> kernel versions.

Right, saw those commits. But before net-next hits release, I'd really
need a fix for 3.3/3.4/3.5. Non-working fragmentation with IPsec, and
this CLAMPMSS thingy are an upgrade stopper for me.

Would it be safe to just revert this commit, with the side-effect of
exposing cached pmtu too agressively?

Or would it be better to try to backport the relevant changes of moving
pmtu back to route table?
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