netdev - Re: [PATCH V2 09/12] net/eipoib: Add main driver functionality

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Message-Id: <20120803.170558.521297686027330433.davem@davemloft.net>
Date:	Fri, 03 Aug 2012 17:05:58 -0700 (PDT)
From:	David Miller <davem@...emloft.net>
To:	ali@...lanox.com
Cc:	ebiederm@...ssion.com, ogerlitz@...lanox.com, roland@...nel.org,
	netdev@...r.kernel.org, sean.hefty@...el.com, erezsh@...lanox.co.il
Subject: Re: [PATCH V2 09/12] net/eipoib: Add main driver functionality

From: Ali Ayoub <ali@...lanox.com>
Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2012 17:02:35 -0700

> On 8/3/2012 3:39 PM, Ali Ayoub wrote:
>> On 8/3/2012 2:33 PM, David Miller wrote:
>>> From: Ali Ayoub <ali@...lanox.com>
>>> Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2012 13:31:35 -0700
>>>
>>>> With eIPoIB architecture, the VM sees standard Ethernet emulator,
>>>> allowing the administrator to enslave eIPoIB PIF to the vSwitch/vBridge
>>>> as if it was standard Ethernet. Other approaches that exposes IB QP to
>>>> the VM (with w/o bypassing the kernel) won't be possible with the
>>>> current emulators and management tools.
>>>
>>> So then fix the emulators and management tools to handle IB instead
>>> of adding this bogus new protocol?
>>>
>>> This new protocol seems to exist only because you don't want to have
>>> to enhance the emulators and tools, and I'm sorry that isn't a valid
>>> reason to do something like this.
>> 
>> This driver exists to allow the user to have an Ethernet interface on
>> top of a high-speed InfiniBand (IB) interconnect.
>> Users would like to use sockets API from the VM without re-writing their
>> applications on top of IB verbs, this driver meant to allow such a user
>> to do so.
>> 
>> Exposing IB emulators and having IB support in the management tools for
>> the VM/Hypervisor won't address the usecases that this driver meant for.
>> 
>> With this driver, existing VMs, and their existing IP applications, can
>> run as-is on InfiniBand network.
> 
> This driver exists to allow the user to have an Ethernet interface on
> top of a high-speed InfiniBand (IB) interconnect.
> Users would like to use sockets API from the VM without re-writing their
> applications on top of IB verbs, this driver meant to allow such a user
> to do so.
> 
> Exposing IB emulators and having IB support in the management tools for
> the VM/Hypervisor won't address the usecases that this driver meant for.
> 
> With this driver, existing VMs, and their existing IP applications, can
> run as-is on InfiniBand network.

Just saying the same thing twice doesn't make your argument stronger.
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