netdev - Re: [RFC PATCH 0/2] net: connect to UNIX sockets from specified root

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Message-ID: <20120813164730.GB2497@fieldses.org>
Date:	Mon, 13 Aug 2012 12:47:30 -0400
From:	"J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@...ldses.org>
To:	Stanislav Kinsbursky <skinsbursky@...allels.com>
Cc:	Pavel Emelyanov <xemul@...allels.com>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@...or.com>,
	Alan Cox <alan@...rguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	"Trond.Myklebust@...app.com" <Trond.Myklebust@...app.com>,
	"davem@...emloft.net" <davem@...emloft.net>,
	"linux-nfs@...r.kernel.org" <linux-nfs@...r.kernel.org>,
	"eric.dumazet@...il.com" <eric.dumazet@...il.com>,
	"netdev@...r.kernel.org" <netdev@...r.kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	"viro@...iv.linux.org.uk" <viro@...iv.linux.org.uk>,
	"tim.c.chen@...ux.intel.com" <tim.c.chen@...ux.intel.com>,
	"devel@...nvz.org" <devel@...nvz.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/2] net: connect to UNIX sockets from specified
 root

On Sat, Aug 11, 2012 at 03:15:24PM +0400, Stanislav Kinsbursky wrote:
> 11.08.2012 10:23, Pavel Emelyanov пишет:
> >On 08/11/2012 03:09 AM, H. Peter Anvin wrote:
> >>On 08/10/2012 12:28 PM, Alan Cox wrote:
> >>>Explicitly for Linux yes - this is not generally true of the AF_UNIX
> >>>socket domain and even the permissions aspect isn't guaranteed to be
> >>>supported on some BSD environments !
> >>Yes, but let's worry about what the Linux behavior should be.
> >>
> >>>The name is however just a proxy for the socket itself. You don't even
> >>>get a device node in the usual sense or the same inode in the file system
> >>>space.
> >>
> >>No, but it is looked up the same way any other inode is (the difference
> >>between FIFOs and sockets is that sockets have separate connections,
> >>which is also why open() on sockets would be nice.)
> >>
> >>However, there is a fundamental difference between AF_UNIX sockets and
> >>open(), and that is how the pathname is delivered.  It thus would make
> >>more sense to provide the openat()-like information in struct
> >>sockaddr_un, but that may be very hard to do in a sensible way.  In that
> >>sense it perhaps would be cleaner to be able to do an open[at]() on the
> >>socket node with O_PATH (perhaps there should be an O_SOCKET option,
> >>even?) and pass the resulting file descriptor to bind() or connect().
> >I vote for this (openat + O_WHATEVER on a unix socket) as well. It will
> >help us in checkpoint-restore, making handling of overmounted/unlinked
> >sockets much cleaner.
> 
> I have to notice, that it's not enough and doesn't solve the issue.
> There should be some way how to connect/bind already existent unix
> socket (from kernel, at least), because socket can be created in
> user space.
> And this way (sock operation or whatever) have to provide an ability
> to lookup UNIX socket starting from specified root to support
> containers.

I don't understand--the rpcbind sockets are created by the kernel.  What
am I missing?

--b.
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