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Message-ID: <502BA6B4.9020106@gmail.com>
Date:	Wed, 15 Aug 2012 15:40:04 +0200
From:	Sasha Levin <levinsasha928@...il.com>
To:	Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@...icios.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 02/16] user_ns: use new hashtable implementation

On 08/15/2012 05:31 AM, Mathieu Desnoyers wrote:
> * Eric W. Biederman (ebiederm@...ssion.com) wrote:
>> Sasha Levin <levinsasha928@...il.com> writes:
>>
>>> On 08/15/2012 03:08 AM, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
>>>>> I can offer the following: I'll write a small module that will hash 1...10000
>>>>>> into a hashtable which uses 7 bits (just like user_ns) and post the distribution
>>>>>> we'll get.
>>>> That won't hurt.  I think 1-100 then 1000-1100 may actually be more
>>>> representative.  Not that I would mind seeing the larger range.
>>>> Especially since I am in the process of encouraging the use of more
>>>> uids.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Alrighty, the results are in (numbers are objects in bucket):
>>>
>>> For the 0...10000 range:
>>>
>>> Average: 78.125
>>> Std dev: 1.4197704151
>>> Min: 75
>>> Max: 80
>>>
>>>
>>> For the 1...100 range:
>>>
>>> Average: 0.78125
>>> Std dev: 0.5164613088
>>> Min: 0
>>> Max: 2
>>>
>>>
>>> For the 1000...1100 range:
>>>
>>> Average: 0.7890625
>>> Std dev: 0.4964812206
>>> Min: 0
>>> Max: 2
>>>
>>>
>>> Looks like hash_32 is pretty good with small numbers.
>>
>> Yes hash_32 seems reasonable for the uid hash.   With those long hash
>> chains I wouldn't like to be on a machine with 10,000 processes with
>> each with a different uid, and a processes calling setuid in the fast
>> path.
>>
>> The uid hash that we are playing with is one that I sort of wish that
>> the hash table could grow in size, so that we could scale up better.
> 
> Hi Eric,
> 
> If you want to try out something that has more features than a basic
> hash table, already exists and is available for you to play with, you
> might want to have a look at the RCU lock-free resizable hash table.
> It's initially done in userspace, but shares the same RCU semantic as
> the kernel, and has chunk-based kernel-friendly index backends (thanks
> to Lai Jiangshan), very useful to integrate with the kernel page
> allocator.

I'm guessing that once this static hashtable is stable, a
DEFINE_DYNAMIC_HASHTABLE() will get introduced which will evolve into something
similar to what Mathieu has pointed out in the urcu.

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