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Date:	Thu, 30 Aug 2012 12:45:43 -0400 (EDT)
From:	David Miller <davem@...emloft.net>
To:	eric.dumazet@...il.com
Cc:	hkjerry.chu@...il.com, alex@...lab.net, netdev@...r.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/1] tcp: Wrong timeout for SYN segments

From: Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@...il.com>
Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2012 06:12:30 -0700

> On Wed, 2012-08-29 at 10:25 -0700, H.K. Jerry Chu wrote:
> 
>> But it probably matter slightly more for TCP Fast Open (the server
>> side patch has
>> been completed and will be posted soon, after I finish breaking it up
>> into smaller
>> pieces for ease of review purpose), when a full socket will be created with data
>> passed to the app upon a valid SYN+data. Dropping a fully functioning socket
>> won't be the same as dropping a request_sock unknown to the app and letting
>> the other side retransmitting SYN (w/o data this time).
>> 
>> >
>> > Sure, RFC numbers are what they are, but in practice, I doubt someone
>> > will really miss the extra SYNACK sent after ~32 seconds, since it would
>> > matter only for the last SYN attempted.
>> 
>> I'd slightly prefer 1 extra retry plus longer wait time just to make
>> TCP Fast Open
>> a little more robust (even though the app protocol is required to be
>> idempotent).
>> But this is not a showstopper.
> 
> Thats very good points indeed, thanks.
> 
> Maybe we can increase SYNACK max retrans only if the FastOpen SYN cookie
> was validated.
> 
> This way, we increase reliability without amplifying the effect of wild
> SYN packets.

Can we come to a final conclusion on this last point and arrive at a final
patch?

Thanks.
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