Message-id: <50B59F54.8080401@samsung.com>
Date:	Wed, 28 Nov 2012 09:21:24 +0400
From:	Alexey Perevalov <a.perevalov@...sung.com>
To:	Daniel Wagner <wagi@...om.org>
Cc:	Glauber Costa <glommer@...allels.com>, netdev@...r.kernel.org,
	cgroups@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [net-next RFC v2] net_cls: traffic counter based on classification
 control cgroup

On 11/27/2012 05:02 PM, Daniel Wagner wrote:
> Hi Alexey,
>
> On 27.11.2012 12:03, Glauber Costa wrote:
>> On 11/27/2012 02:56 PM, Alexey Perevalov wrote:
>>> Hello.
>>>
>>> It's second version of patch I already sent to netdev.
>>>
>>> The main goal of this patch it's counting traffic for process placed to
>>> net_cls cgroup (ingress and egress).
>>> It's based on res_counters and holds counter per network interfaces.
>>>
>>> Description of patch.
>>> It handles packets in net/core/dev.c for egress and in
>>> /net/ipv4/tcp.c|udp.c for ingress.
>>> These places were chosen because we need to know also network interface.
>>>
>>> Cgroup fs interface provides following files additional to existing
>>> net_cls files:
>>> net_cls.ifacename.usage_in_bytes
>>> Containing rcv/snd lines.
>>> Also this patch adds to net_cls ability to handle a network device
>>> registration.
>>>
>>> It could be included or excluded in compile time.
>>> I moved the menu entry for "Control group classifier" from network/QoS to
>>> General Option/Control Group.
>>>
>>> I'm waiting for you comments.
>>>
>> Daniel Wagner is working on something a lot similar.
> Yes, basically what I try to do is explained by this excellent article
>
> https://lwn.net/Articles/523058/
I read articles and agreed with aspects.
But problem of selecting preferred network for application can be solved 
using netprio cgroup.


> The short version: Per application routing and statistics.
>
> I have two PoC implementation doing this. Both implementation have the same key
> idea which is to set SO_MARK per application. The routing and statistics would
> then be done by a bunch iptables rules.
>
> In the first implementation extends net_cls to set SO_MARK:
>
> void sock_update_classid(struct sock *sk, struct task_struct *task)
>   {
>          u32 classid;
> +       u32 mark;
>   
>          classid = task_cls_classid(task);
>          if (classid != sk->sk_classid)
>                  sk->sk_classid = classid;
> +
> +       mark = task_cls_mark(task);
> +       if (mark != sk->sk_mark)
> +               sk->sk_mark = mark;
>   }
>
> The second implementation is adding a new iptables matcher which matches
> on LSM contexts. Then you can do something like this:
>
> iptables -t mangle -A OUTPUT -m secmark --secctx unconfined_u:unconfined_r:foo_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 -j MARK --set-mark 200
As I understand in LSM context it works for egress and ingress.

>> Maybe you should be in contact, in case you are not yet.
>>
>> A few general comments:
>> 1) res_counters are incredibly expensive. If you are more interested in
>> counting than you are in limiting, they may not be your best choice.
You right, I have a plan now to limit traffic too here.
Or as a variant in QoS in this case atomic is better here.

>> 2) When Daniel exposed his use case to me, it gave me the impression
>> that "counting traffic" is something that is totally doable by having a
>> dedicated interface in a separate namespace. Basically, we already count
>> traffic (rx and tx) for all interfaces anyway, so it suggests that it
>> could be an interesting way to see the problem.
> Moving applications into separate net namespaces is for sure a valid solution.
> Though there is a one drawback in this approach. The namespaces need to be
> attached to a bridge and then some NATting. That means every application
> would get it's own IP address. This might be okay for your certain use
> cases but I am still trying to work around this. Glauber and I had some
> discussion about this and he suggested to allow the physical networking
> device to be attached to several namespaces (e.g. via macvlan). Every
> namespace would get the same IP address. Unfortunately, this would result in
> the same mess as several physical devices on a network get the same
> IP address assigned.
Is I truly understand what to make statistics works we need to put 
process to separate namespace?
Approach to keep counter in cgroup hasn't such side effects, but it has 
another ).

>   
>
>> AFAIK, Daniel is still measuring this. But it would be great to know if
>> that could work for your use case as well.
> I have not started to measure :(
>
> cheers,
> daniel
>
>
Thank you Daniel and Glauber!

-- 
BR
Alexey

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