netdev - RE: [PATCH v2] net/macb: Use non-coherent memory for rx buffers

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Message-ID: <AE90C24D6B3A694183C094C60CF0A2F6026B70D6@saturn3.aculab.com>
Date:	Mon, 3 Dec 2012 14:25:40 -0000
From:	"David Laight" <David.Laight@...LAB.COM>
To:	"Nicolas Ferre" <nicolas.ferre@...el.com>
Cc:	"David S. Miller" <davem@...emloft.net>, <netdev@...r.kernel.org>,
	<linux-arm-kernel@...ts.infradead.org>,
	<linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	"Joachim Eastwood" <manabian@...il.com>,
	"Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD" <plagnioj@...osoft.com>,
	"Havard Skinnemoen" <havard@...nnemoen.net>
Subject: RE: [PATCH v2] net/macb: Use non-coherent memory for rx buffers

> On 12/03/2012 01:43 PM, David Laight :
> >> Allocate regular pages to use as backing for the RX ring and use the
> >> DMA API to sync the caches. This should give a bit better performance
> >> since it allows the CPU to do burst transfers from memory. It is also
> >> a necessary step on the way to reduce the amount of copying done by
> >> the driver.
> >
> > I've not tried to understand the patches, but you have to be
> > very careful using non-snooped memory for descriptor rings.
> > No amount of DMA API calls can sort out some of the issues.
> 
> David,
> 
> Maybe I have not described the patch properly but the non-coherent
> memory is not used for descriptor rings. It is used for DMA buffers
> pointed out by descriptors (that are allocated as coherent memory).
> 
> As buffers are filled up by the interface DMA and then, afterwards, used
> by the driver to pass data to the net layer, it seems to me that the use
> of non-coherent memory is sensible.

Ah, ok - difficult to actually determine from a fast read of the code.
So you invalidate (I think that is the right term) all the cache lines
that are part of each rx buffer before giving it back to the MAC unit.
(Maybe that first time, and just those cache lines that might have been
written to after reception - I'd worry about whether the CRC is written
into the rx buffer!)

I was wondering if the code needs to do per page allocations?
Perhaps that is necessary to avoid needing a large block of
contiguous physical memory (and virtual addresses)?

I know from some experiments done many years ago that a data
copy in the MAC tx and rx path isn't necessarily as bad as
people may think - especially if it removes complicated
'buffer loaning' schemes and/or iommu setup (or bounce
buffers due to limited hardware memory addressing).

The rx copy can usually be made to be a 'whole word' copy
(ie you copy the two bytes of garbage that (mis)align the
destination MAC address, and some bytes after the CRC.
With some hardware I believe it is possible for the cache
controller to do cache-line aligned copies very quickly!
(Some very new x86 cpus might be doing this for 'rep movsd'.)

The copy in the rx path is also better for short packets
the can end up queued for userspace (although a copy in
the socket code would solve that one.

	David

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