Date:	Thu, 13 Dec 2012 14:27:01 -0500
From:	Peter Hurley <peter@...leysoftware.com>
To:	Neil Horman <nhorman@...driver.com>
Cc:	Cong Wang <xiyou.wangcong@...il.com>, netdev@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: netconsole fun

On Thu, 2012-12-13 at 13:08 -0500, Neil Horman wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 09:49:31AM -0500, Peter Hurley wrote:
> > On Thu, 2012-12-13 at 07:36 -0500, Neil Horman wrote:
> > > On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 03:59:17PM -0500, Peter Hurley wrote:
> > > > On Tue, 2012-12-11 at 11:45 -0500, Neil Horman wrote:
> > > > > On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 10:16:51AM -0500, Peter Hurley wrote:
> > > > > > On Tue, 2012-12-11 at 09:30 -0500, Neil Horman wrote:
> > > > > > > On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 09:19:52AM -0500, Peter Hurley wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Tue, 2012-12-11 at 04:51 +0000, Cong Wang wrote:
> > > > > > > > > On Mon, 10 Dec 2012 at 14:17 GMT, Peter Hurley <peter@...leysoftware.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > Now that netpoll has been disabled for slaved devices, is there a
> > > > > > > > > > recommended method of running netconsole on a machine that has a slaved
> > > > > > > > > > device?
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > Yes, running it on the master device instead.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Thanks for the suggestion, but:
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > [ 0.000000] Kernel command line: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-3.7.0-rc8-xeon ...... netconsole=@....168.10.99/br0,30000@....168.10.100/xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx
> > > > > > > > ...
> > > > > > > > [ 5.289869] netpoll: netconsole: local port 6665
> > > > > > > > [ 5.289885] netpoll: netconsole: local IP 192.168.10.99
> > > > > > > > [ 5.289892] netpoll: netconsole: interface 'br0'
> > > > > > > > [ 5.289898] netpoll: netconsole: remote port 30000
> > > > > > > > [ 5.289907] netpoll: netconsole: remote IP 192.168.10.100
> > > > > > > > [ 5.289914] netpoll: netconsole: remote ethernet address xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx
> > > > > > > > [ 5.289922] netpoll: netconsole: br0 doesn't exist, aborting
> > > > > > > > [ 5.289929] netconsole: cleaning up
> > > > > > > > ...
> > > > > > > > [ 9.392291] Bridge firewalling registered
> > > > > > > > [ 9.396805] device eth1 entered promiscuous mode
> > > > > > > > [ 9.418350] eth1:  setting full-duplex.
> > > > > > > > [ 9.421268] br0: port 1(eth1) entered forwarding state
> > > > > > > > [ 9.423354] br0: port 1(eth1) entered forwarding state
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Is there a way to control or associate network device names prior to
> > > > > > > > udev renaming?
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > That looks like a systemd problem (or more specifically a boot dependency
> > > > > > > problem).  You need to modify your netconsole unit/service file to start after
> > > > > > > all your networking is up.  NetworkManager provides a dummy service file for
> > > > > > > this purpose, called networkmanager-wait-online.service
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Ok. So with a single physical network interface that will be bridged,
> > > > > > netconsole cannot used for kernel boot messages.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > With a machine with multiple nics, is there a way to control device
> > > > > > naming so that the interface name to be used by netconsole specified on
> > > > > > the boot command line will actually corresponding to the intended
> > > > > > device. For example,
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > [ 0.000000] Kernel command line: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-3.7.0-rc8-xeon ...... netconsole=@....168.1.123/eth0,30000@....168.1.139/xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx
> > > > > > ....
> > > > > > [ 4.092184] 3c59x: Donald Becker and others.
> > > > > > [ 4.092204] 0000:07:05.0: 3Com PCI 3c905C Tornado at ffffc9000186cf80.
> > > > > > [ 4.094035] tg3.c:v3.125 (September 26, 2012)
> > > > > > ....
> > > > > > [ 4.125038] tg3 0000:08:00.0 eth1: Tigon3 [partno(BCM95754) rev b002] (PCI Express) MAC address xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx
> > > > > > [ 4.125055] tg3 0000:08:00.0 eth1: attached PHY is 5787 (10/100/1000Base-T Ethernet) (WireSpeed[1], EEE[0])
> > > > > > [ 4.125062] tg3 0000:08:00.0 eth1: RXcsums[1] LinkChgREG[0] MIirq[0] ASF[0] TSOcap[1]
> > > > > > [ 4.125068] tg3 0000:08:00.0 eth1: dma_rwctrl[76180000] dma_mask[64-bit]
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > This is attaching netconsole to the wrong device because bus
> > > > > > enumeration, and therefore load order, is not consistent from boot to
> > > > > > boot.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > No, theres no way to do that.  As you note device ennumeration isn't consistent
> > > > > accross boots, thats why udev creates rules to rename devices based on immutable
> > > > > (or semi-immutable) data, like mac addresses, or pci bus locations).  Once that
> > > > > happens, you'll have consistent names for your interfaces, and that work will be
> > > > > guaranteed to be done after networkmanager has finished opening all the
> > > > > interfaces that it needs (hence my suggestion to make netconsole service
> > > > > dependent on networkmanager service startup completing).
> > > > 
> > > > Just wondering if you think something like the patch below is
> > > > suitable/acceptable for insulating netconsole from inconsistent device
> > > > name scenarios without changing the existing semantics. The basic idea
> > > > is to allow an ethernet MAC address in the <dev> field of the
> > > > netconsole= options, and if a MAC address was specified rather than a
> > > > device name, to do the dev lookup from the MAC address instead.
> > > > 
> > > > This doesn't extend to, but also doesn't interfere with, the dynamic
> > > > config of netconsole via configfs.
> > > > 
> > > > Would you mind reviewing it?
> > > > 
> > > > Regards,
> > > > Peter
> > > > 
> > > This looks like a pretty good idea to me.  That said, something occured to me
> > > when you wrote your summary above.  Have you looked at the netconsole service
> > > scripts that most distros provide in their packaging?  I'm almost positive Red
> > > Hat/Fedora (and also like Suse and Ubuntu), already implement this functionality
> > > from user space.  Basically, instead of people just modprobing netconsole, they
> > > create a service script that parses a config file that has contains all the
> > > options needed to load the netconsole module, and it has the intellegence to see
> > > if you specified a mac address rather than a device.  If you did that it finds
> > > the corresponding device mac address and uses that as the device.  I'm sorry, I
> > > don't know why I didn't think of that before.  Check that out though, that will
> > > likey give you exactly what you need
> > 
> > Even with a udev rule to load netconsole that runs immediately after
> > device renaming (so before scripting), most of the dynamic module
> > loading has already happened so netconsole misses it. At least with the
> > patch, netconsole will load and attach to the proper interface much
> > earlier in the boot so that module-load-time messages will be caught.
> > 
> I'm not sure what you mean by this.

This is the beginning of my netconsole log if I use userspace scripts to
start it.

[   19.125314] ip_tables: (C) 2000-2006 Netfilter Core Team
[   20.060925] nf_conntrack version 0.5.0 (16384 buckets, 65536 max)
[   21.829331] ip6_tables: (C) 2000-2006 Netfilter Core Team
[   25.728370] at-spi-registry[1862]: segfault at 18 ip 00007f6dd1dd45f1 sp 00007fff49bcd760 error 4 in libgconf-2.so.4.1.5[7f6dd1dbd000+2d000]
[   26.778848] EXT4-fs (dm-3): re-mounted. Opts: errors=remount-ro,commit=0
[   30.643469] Bluetooth: RFCOMM TTY layer initialized
[   30.643509] Bluetooth: RFCOMM socket layer initialized
[   30.643512] Bluetooth: RFCOMM ver 1.11
[   30.784550] Bluetooth: BNEP (Ethernet Emulation) ver 1.3
[   30.784567] Bluetooth: BNEP filters: protocol multicast
[   30.784584] Bluetooth: BNEP socket layer initialized
[   34.010813] init: plymouth-stop pre-start process (2205) terminated with status 1

This is the beginning of my netconsole log if I am able to specify
netconsole= options on the boot command line. Netconsole starts logging
much earlier because it is much loaded earlier.

[    8.764336] EXT4-fs (dm-4): mounted filesystem with ordered data mode. Opts: (null)
[    9.409379] firewire_core 0000:07:06.0: created device fw1: GUID 0800460301c2d69e, S400
[    9.567395] init: ureadahead main process (500) terminated with status 5
[   10.400338] Adding 10996456k swap on /dev/mapper/isw_cbdbfhdjad_Raid0p5.  Priority:-1 extents:1 across:10996456k 
[   10.496974] udevd[541]: starting version 173
[   10.725906] EXT4-fs (dm-4): re-mounted. Opts: errors=remount-ro
[   11.288352] lp: driver loaded but no devices found
[   12.240058] parport_pc 00:05: reported by Plug and Play ACPI
[   12.240145] parport0: PC-style at 0x378 (0x778), irq 7, using FIFO [PCSPP,TRISTATE,COMPAT,ECP]
[   12.336161] lp0: using parport0 (interrupt-driven).
[   12.342867] microcode: CPU0 sig=0x10676, pf=0x40, revision=0x60f
[   12.436657] shpchp: Standard Hot Plug PCI Controller Driver version: 0.4
[   12.442245] ppdev: user-space parallel port driver
[   12.451592] net firewire0: IPv4 over IEEE 1394 on card 0000:07:06.0

Does that make more sense now?

Thanks again,
Peter

> > There is an unforeseen consequence of the patch: it breaks device
> > renaming because the device will already be in use by netconsole. Which
> > is the whole problem with userspace device renaming to begin with...
> > 
> That is bad, but see above, the netconsole service can work around this for you,
> allowing you to never have to specify a particular device at all.

Just to be clear here,



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