netdev - Re: [PATCH] net: fec: Add support for multiple phys on mdiobus

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Message-ID: <50FEAE12.7090307@openwrt.org>
Date:	Tue, 22 Jan 2013 16:19:46 +0100
From:	Florian Fainelli <florian@...nwrt.org>
To:	Wolfgang Grandegger <wg@...ndegger.com>
CC:	Sascha Hauer <s.hauer@...gutronix.de>, netdev@...r.kernel.org,
	linux-arm-kernel@...ts.infradead.org, shawn.guo@...aro.org,
	davem@...emloft.net
Subject: Re: [PATCH] net: fec: Add support for multiple phys on mdiobus

On 01/22/2013 04:03 PM, Wolfgang Grandegger wrote:
> On 01/22/2013 03:47 PM, Florian Fainelli wrote:
>> On 01/22/2013 08:22 AM, Wolfgang Grandegger wrote:
>>>> Well this could be done when the fixed phy driver could be registered
>>>> with the devicetree, maybe like this:
>>>>
>>>>      fixed-phy: mdiophy {
>>>>          compatible = "mdio-fixed-phy";
>>>>          link = "100FD";
>>>>      };
>>> I find that confusing. There is *no* phy but just a fixed link to the
>>> switch...
>>>
>>>> The good thing about this would be that every ethernet driver could just
>>>> use such a fixed phy, any external mdio phy (like on Marvell Armada) or
>>>> just a phy connected to the internal mdio interface provided by the
>>>> ethernet
>>>> core.
>>> What is wrong with the existing "fixed-link" property of the *ethernet*
>>> node. The fixed-link handling should/could be done in the phy layer, and
>>> not in the driver as it currently is implemented. Maybe that's the
>>> reason why the current code is regarded as hack!
>> As far as I have used it with the CPMAC driver, the fixed PHY is a
>> specific PHY device and there is no specific handling to be done by the
>> Ethernet MAC driver but eventually changing its MII bus id so that it is
>> named "fixed-0" to allow the fixed PHY driver to bind. Put differently,
> There is special handling for the fixed link, e.g. here:
>
> http://lxr.linux.no/#linux+v3.7.4/drivers/net/ethernet/freescale/gianfar.c#L1462
>
> This could be hidden in the PHY layer allowing all ethernet drivers
> using the "fixed-link" property.

Ok, so in the end you could have potentially an ethernet PHY node 
containing the following properties:
- fixed-link
- fixed-speed
- fixed-duplex

and treat it as a fixed-phy. If so, this would be pretty handy.

>
>> using the fixed PHY driver is a kind of "last" resort thing to cope with
>> situations like:
>>
>> - switch not providing a consistent PHY-like interface on the MDC/MDIO bus
>> - switches not connected to the MDC/MDIO bus of the Ethernet MAC they
>> forward to
>>
>> What exactly do you mean by "as it currently is implemented"? that you
>> do not like?
> As Sascha pointed out, the implementation is labeled as "hack", which
> should be fixed sooner than later. It's just not clear why ;).
>
> Wolfgang.
>
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