netdev - Re: [PATCH v5 04/45] percpu_rwlock: Implement the core design of Per-CPU Reader-Writer Locks

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Message-ID: <20130208224742.GJ2666@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Date:	Fri, 8 Feb 2013 14:47:42 -0800
From:	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>
To:	Namhyung Kim <namhyung@...nel.org>
Cc:	"Srivatsa S. Bhat" <srivatsa.bhat@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Tejun Heo <tj@...nel.org>, tglx@...utronix.de,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 04/45] percpu_rwlock: Implement the core design of
 Per-CPU Reader-Writer Locks

On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 08:12:37PM +0900, Namhyung Kim wrote:
> On Thu, 24 Jan 2013 10:00:04 +0530, Srivatsa S. Bhat wrote:
> > On 01/24/2013 01:27 AM, Tejun Heo wrote:
> >> On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 01:03:52AM +0530, Srivatsa S. Bhat wrote:
> >>> CPU 0                          CPU 1
> >>>
> >>> read_lock(&rwlock)
> >>>
> >>>                               write_lock(&rwlock) //spins, because CPU 0
> >>>                               //has acquired the lock for read
> >>>
> >>> read_lock(&rwlock)
> >>>    ^^^^^
> >>> What happens here? Does CPU 0 start spinning (and hence deadlock) or will
> >>> it continue realizing that it already holds the rwlock for read?
> >> 
> >> I don't think rwlock allows nesting write lock inside read lock.
> >> read_lock(); write_lock() will always deadlock.
> >> 
> >
> > Sure, I understand that :-) My question was, what happens when *two* CPUs
> > are involved, as in, the read_lock() is invoked only on CPU 0 whereas the
> > write_lock() is invoked on CPU 1.
> >
> > For example, the same scenario shown above, but with slightly different
> > timing, will NOT result in a deadlock:
> >
> > Scenario 2:
> >   CPU 0                                CPU 1
> >
> > read_lock(&rwlock)
> >
> >
> > read_lock(&rwlock) //doesn't spin
> >
> >                                     write_lock(&rwlock) //spins, because CPU 0
> >                                     //has acquired the lock for read
> >
> >
> > So I was wondering whether the "fairness" logic of rwlocks would cause
> > the second read_lock() to spin (in the first scenario shown above) because
> > a writer is already waiting (and hence new readers should spin) and thus
> > cause a deadlock.
> 
> In my understanding, current x86 rwlock does basically this (of course,
> in an atomic fashion):
> 
> 
> #define RW_LOCK_BIAS 0x10000
> 
> rwlock_init(rwlock)
> {
> 	rwlock->lock = RW_LOCK_BIAS;
> }
> 
> arch_read_lock(rwlock)
> {
> retry:
> 	if (--rwlock->lock >= 0)
> 		return;
> 
>         rwlock->lock++;
>         while (rwlock->lock < 1)
>         	continue;
> 
>         goto retry;
> }
> 
> arch_write_lock(rwlock)
> {
> retry:
> 	if ((rwlock->lock -= RW_LOCK_BIAS) == 0)
>         	return;
> 
>         rwlock->lock += RW_LOCK_BIAS;
> 	while (rwlock->lock != RW_LOCK_BIAS)
> 		continue;
> 
>         goto retry;
> }
> 
> 
> So I can't find where the 'fairness' logic comes from..

I looked through several of the rwlock implementations, and in all of
them the writer backs off if it sees readers -- or refrains from asserting
ownership of the lock to begin with.

So it should be OK to use rwlock as shown in the underlying patch.

							Thanx, Paul

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