netdev - Re: bridge interface initial carrier state

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Message-ID: <20130211135836.2220ca68@nehalam.linuxnetplumber.net>
Date:	Mon, 11 Feb 2013 13:58:36 -0800
From:	Stephen Hemminger <stephen@...workplumber.org>
To:	Dan Williams <dcbw@...hat.com>
Cc:	netdev@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: bridge interface initial carrier state

On Mon, 11 Feb 2013 14:01:55 -0600
Dan Williams <dcbw@...hat.com> wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I'm wondering if the initial carrier state of 'on' is intentional for a
> bridge without ports; immediately after adding ports, the carrier is
> recalculated and depends on the combined state of each port's carrier
> and STP forwarding state.  So a userspace program attempting to decide
> whether the bridge was usable or not has to look at both (a) how many
> ports are available and (b) bridge carrier state, instead of just
> looking at the bridge carrier state.
> 
> Dan

It really should be off when no ports are present, but some initial startup
scripts broke when it was that way.
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