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Message-ID: <20130212210605.GA28929@minipsycho.orion>
Date:	Tue, 12 Feb 2013 22:06:05 +0100
From:	Jiri Pirko <jiri@...nulli.us>
To:	Stephen Hemminger <stephen@...workplumber.org>
Cc:	Dan Williams <dcbw@...hat.com>, netdev@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: bridge interface initial carrier state

Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 10:58:36PM CET, stephen@...workplumber.org wrote:
>On Mon, 11 Feb 2013 14:01:55 -0600
>Dan Williams <dcbw@...hat.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I'm wondering if the initial carrier state of 'on' is intentional for a
>> bridge without ports; immediately after adding ports, the carrier is
>> recalculated and depends on the combined state of each port's carrier
>> and STP forwarding state.  So a userspace program attempting to decide
>> whether the bridge was usable or not has to look at both (a) how many
>> ports are available and (b) bridge carrier state, instead of just
>> looking at the bridge carrier state.
>> 
>> Dan
>
>It really should be off when no ports are present, but some initial startup
>scripts broke when it was that way.

How so? Can you give me an example of that script?
I think that any script should be able to handle a situation when carrier
of some device is down...


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