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Message-ID: <CD7A05CE.7802%blourdel@juniper.net>
Date:	Thu, 28 Mar 2013 13:42:29 +0000
From:	Benoit Lourdelet <blourdel@...iper.net>
To:	Serge Hallyn <serge.hallyn@...ntu.com>,
	"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@...ssion.com>
CC:	Stephen Hemminger <stephen@...workplumber.org>,
	"netdev@...r.kernel.org" <netdev@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH] iproute: Faster ip link add, set and delete

Hello,

My test consists in starting small containers (10MB of RAM ) each. Each
container has 2x physical VLAN interfaces attached.

lxc.network.type = phys
lxc.network.flags = up
lxc.network.link = eth6.3
lxc.network.name = eth2
lxc.network.hwaddr = 00:50:56:a8:03:03
lxc.network.ipv4 = 192.168.1.1/24
lxc.network.type = phys
lxc.network.flags = up
lxc.network.link = eth7.3
lxc.network.name = eth1
lxc.network.ipv4 = 2.2.2.2/24
lxc.network.hwaddr = 00:50:57:b8:00:01



With initial iproute2 , when I reach around 1600 containers, container
creation almost stops.It takes at least 20s per container to start.
With patched iproutes2 , I have started 4000 containers at a rate of 1 per
second w/o problem. I have 8000 clan interfaces configured on the host (2x
4000).


Regards

Benoit

On 28/03/2013 14:36, "Serge Hallyn" <serge.hallyn@...ntu.com> wrote:

>Quoting Eric W. Biederman (ebiederm@...ssion.com):
>> Serge Hallyn <serge.hallyn@...ntu.com> writes:
>> 
>> > Quoting Eric W. Biederman (ebiederm@...ssion.com):
>> >> Serge Hallyn <serge.hallyn@...ntu.com> writes:
>> >> 
>> >> > Quoting Eric W. Biederman (ebiederm@...ssion.com):
>> >> >> Stephen Hemminger <stephen@...workplumber.org> writes:
>> >> >> 
>> >> >> > If you need to do lots of operations the --batch mode will be
>>significantly faster.
>> >> >> > One command start and one link map.
>> >> >> 
>> >> >> The problem in this case as I understand it is lots of independent
>> >> >> operations. Now maybe lxc should not shell out to ip and perform
>>the
>> >> >> work itself.
>> >> >
>> >> > fwiw lxc uses netlink to create new veths, and picks random names
>>with
>> >> > mktemp() ahead of time.
>> >> 
>> >> I am puzzled where does the slownes in iproute2 come into play?
>> >
>> > Benoit originally reported slowness when starting >1500 containers.  I
>> > asked him to run a few manual tests to figure out what was taking the
>> > time.  Manually creating a large # of veths was an obvious test, and
>> > one which showed poorly scaling performance.
>> 
>> Apparently iproute is involved somehwere as when he tested with a
>> patched iproute (as you asked him to) the lxc startup slowdown was
>> gone.
>> 
>> > May well be there are other things slowing down lxc of course.
>> 
>> The evidence indicates it was iproute being called somewhere...
>
>Benoit can you tell us exactly what test you were running when you saw
>the slowdown was gone?
>
>-serge
>


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