netdev - Re: [PATCH net] net: fq_codel: Fix off-by-one error

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Date:	Sat, 30 Mar 2013 16:08:52 +0100
From:	Markus Trippelsdorf <markus@...ppelsdorf.de>
To:	Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@...il.com>
Cc:	Vijay Subramanian <subramanian.vijay@...il.com>,
	netdev@...r.kernel.org, davem@...emloft.net
Subject: Re: [PATCH net] net: fq_codel: Fix off-by-one error

On 2013.03.30 at 07:42 -0700, Eric Dumazet wrote:
> On Sat, 2013-03-30 at 07:53 +0100, Markus Trippelsdorf wrote:
> > On 2013.03.29 at 08:01 -0700, Eric Dumazet wrote:
> > > 
> > > Just curious, did you play changing the default limit (10240 packets) ?
> > 
> > I did some tests on my home router (running OpenWrt trunk) that is rate-
> > limited with hfsc to the speed of the cable modem.
> > 
> > My tests seem to indicate that lowering the default limit to 1024
> > packets results in much better latency behavior when using bittorrent.
> > 
> > With the default limit (10240 packets) I would get huge ping latencies
> > from 600-1200ms when downloading e.g.:
> > http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/12.3/iso/openSUSE-12.3-DVD-x86_64.iso.torrent
> > with hundreds of peers.
> > 
> > Setting the limit to 1024 did get the latencies back in check (20-30ms
> > with occasional spikes of ~100ms).
> 
> Bittorent uses its own rate limiting technique, defeating
> current cwnd control done in the TCP stack, because of a very known
> problem
> 
> ( http://www.ietf.org/id/draft-ietf-tcpm-newcwv-00.txt )
> 
> So if your goal is reducing latencies for a _given_ class of flows, just
> use prio + 3 fq_codel,  and classify your packets to make sure your
> lovely ping packets are not dropped or behind long packets.

This is exactly the setup that I'm using right now (prio + 4 fq_codel
with bittorent set to low).
And setting the fq_codel limit to 1024 improves latency in this
situation. 
That's all I wanted to communicate. If the result doesn't interest you,
just ignore my mail.

-- 
Markus
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