Message-ID: <20130425211358.GE2908@redhat.com>
Date:	Fri, 26 Apr 2013 00:13:58 +0300
From:	"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@...hat.com>
To:	Stephen Hemminger <stephen@...workplumber.org>
Cc:	Vlad Yasevich <vyasevic@...hat.com>, netdev@...r.kernel.org,
	bridge@...ts.linux-foundation.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 net-next 0/6] Allow bridge to function in non-promisc
 mode

On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 10:35:57AM -0700, Stephen Hemminger wrote:
> On Thu, 25 Apr 2013 19:45:27 +0300
> "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@...hat.com> wrote:
> 
> > On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 08:56:56AM -0700, Stephen Hemminger wrote:
> > > On Fri, 19 Apr 2013 16:52:44 -0400
> > > Vlad Yasevich <vyasevic@...hat.com> wrote:
> > > 
> > > > This series is an almost complete rework of the prior attempt
> > > > to make the bridge function in non-promisc mode.  In this series
> > > > the "promiscuity" of an interface is dynamically determined and
> > > > the interface may transition from/to promiscuous mode based on
> > > > bridge configuration.
> > > > 
> > > > The series keeps an idea of an "uplink" port.  That is still user
> > > > designated.
> > > > The series also adds a concept of "dynamic" bridge port.  This is
> > > > the default state of the port and means that the user has not
> > > > specified any static FDBs for that port.
> > > > Once a user has added a static FDB entry to port and also specified
> > > > an "uplink" flag for that FDB, the mac address from that FDB is
> > > > added to the bridge hw address list and synched down to uplinks.
> > > > "Uplinks" are always considered dynamic ports even if a static entry
> > > > has been added for them.
> > > > Promiscuity is determined by the number of dynamic ports.  If there
> > > > are no dynamic ports (i.e all ports have static FDBs set), then we
> > > > know all the neighbors and can switch promisc off on all of the ports.
> > > > If we have only 1 dynamic port and its an uplink, we can synch all
> > > > static hw addresses to this port and mark it non-promisc.
> > > > If we have more then 1 dynamic port, then all ports have to be
> > > > promiscuouse.
> > > > This is the algorith that Michael Tsirkin proposed earlier.
> > > 
> > > Instead of a uplink port, maybe this idea would work better in combination
> > > with another patch I have been working on.
> > > 
> > > In many bridged environments, ports have only one possible MAC address
> > > on the other side. My patch provides a flag to mark those ports as bound
> > > with only one peer MAC address.  This allows those ports to be skipped on
> > > flooding, and for security only packets with that source address would
> > > be allowed.
> > > 
> > > After that change, your promicious code could just use that flag:
> > > i.e: 
> > >    uplink ports = total ports - bound ports
> > >    if (uplink ports == 1)
> > >        enter non-promicious mode
> > 
> > Almost except sometimes (with some guests)
> > X mac addresses are needed, not just one.
> > 
> > How about a generalization:
> > 	- a flag to disable learning per port (only use static entries)
> > 	- a flag to disable flood per port
> > Both sees to exist on openbsd, they are useful by themselves.
> > 
> > Now Vlad's patch can work if both learning and flood are
> > disabled for all ports except maybe one.
> > 
> > 
> 
> Ok, then maybe allow multiple bound MAC address's per guest.

That's exactly what static fdb entries do, right?

> And more flags seems like a good and easy solution to per-port
> control. If you have tested code, please submit it.

Need to put out some other fires, will do afterwards
if Vlad doesn't beat me to it.

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