netdev - Re: [PATCH 2/2] ipvs: Use cond_resched_rcu_lock() helper when dumping connections

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Message-ID: <20130426154547.GC3860@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Date:	Fri, 26 Apr 2013 08:45:47 -0700
From:	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>
To:	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>
Cc:	Simon Horman <horms@...ge.net.au>,
	Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@...il.com>,
	Julian Anastasov <ja@....bg>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@...hat.com>,
	lvs-devel@...r.kernel.org, netdev@...r.kernel.org,
	netfilter-devel@...r.kernel.org, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	Pablo Neira Ayuso <pablo@...filter.org>,
	Dipankar Sarma <dipankar@...ibm.com>, dhaval.giani@...il.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] ipvs: Use cond_resched_rcu_lock() helper when
 dumping connections

On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 10:03:13AM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 10:45:08AM +0900, Simon Horman wrote:
> 
> > @@ -975,8 +975,7 @@ static void *ip_vs_conn_array(struct seq_file *seq, loff_t pos)
> >  				return cp;
> >  			}
> >  		}
> > -		rcu_read_unlock();
> > -		rcu_read_lock();
> > +		cond_resched_rcu_lock();
> >  	}
> 
> 
> While I agree with the sentiment I do find it a somewhat dangerous construct in
> that it might become far too easy to keep an RCU reference over this break and
> thus violate the RCU premise.
> 
> Is there anything that can detect this? Sparse / cocinelle / smatch? If so it
> would be great to add this to these checkers.

I have done some crude coccinelle patterns in the past, but they are
subject to false positives (from when you transfer the pointer from
RCU protection to reference-count protection) and also false negatives
(when you atomically increment some statistic unrelated to protection).

I could imagine maintaining a per-thread count of the number of outermost
RCU read-side critical sections at runtime, and then associating that
counter with a given pointer at rcu_dereference() time, but this would
require either compiler magic or an API for using a pointer returned
by rcu_dereference().  This API could in theory be enforced by sparse.

Dhaval Giani might have some ideas as well, adding him to CC.

							Thanx, Paul

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