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Date:	Wed, 22 May 2013 23:16:55 +0300
From:	Or Gerlitz <or.gerlitz@...il.com>
To:	Alexander Duyck <alexander.duyck@...il.com>
Cc:	"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@...hat.com>,
	Don Dutile <ddutile@...hat.com>,
	Alexander Duyck <alexander.h.duyck@...el.com>,
	Yinghai Lu <yinghai@...nel.org>,
	Bjorn Helgaas <bhelgaas@...gle.com>,
	Gu Zheng <guz.fnst@...fujitsu.com>,
	"linux-pci@...r.kernel.org" <linux-pci@...r.kernel.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	NetDev <netdev@...r.kernel.org>,
	Jack Morgenstein <jackm@....mellanox.co.il>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 6/7] PCI: Make sure VF's driver get attached after PF's

On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 1:30 AM, Alexander Duyck
<alexander.duyck@...il.com> wrote:
> On 05/21/2013 03:11 PM, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
>> On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 03:01:08PM -0700, Alexander Duyck wrote:
>>> On 05/21/2013 02:49 PM, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
>>>> On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 05:30:32PM -0400, Don Dutile wrote:
>>>>> On 05/14/2013 05:39 PM, Alexander Duyck wrote:
>>>>>> On 05/14/2013 12:59 PM, Yinghai Lu wrote:
>>>>>>> On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 12:45 PM, Alexander Duyck
>>>>>>> <alexander.h.duyck@...el.com>  wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 05/14/2013 11:44 AM, Yinghai Lu wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 9:00 AM, Alexander Duyck
>>>>>>>>> <alexander.h.duyck@...el.com>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> I'm sorry, but what is the point of this patch?  With device assignment
>>>>>>>>>> it is always possible to have VFs loaded and the PF driver unloaded
>>>>>>>>>> since you cannot remove the VFs if they are assigned to a VM.
>>>>>>>>> unload PF driver will not call pci_disable_sriov?
>>>>>>>> You cannot call pci_disable_sriov because you will panic all of the
>>>>>>>> guests that have devices assigned.
>>>>>>> ixgbe_remove did call pci_disable_sriov...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> for guest panic, that is another problem.
>>>>>>> just like you pci passthrough with real pci device and hotremove the
>>>>>>> card in host.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I suggest you take another look.  In ixgbe_disable_sriov, which is the
>>>>>> function that is called we do a check for assigned VFs.  If they are
>>>>>> assigned then we do not call pci_disable_sriov.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So how does your patch actually fix this problem?  It seems like it is
>>>>>>>> just avoiding it.
>>>>>>> yes, until the first one is done.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Avoiding the issue doesn't fix the underlying problem and instead you
>>>>>> are likely just introducing more bugs as a result.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> From what I can tell your problem is originating in pci_call_probe.  I
>>>>>>>> believe it is calling work_on_cpu and that doesn't seem correct since
>>>>>>>> the work should be taking place on a CPU already local to the PF. You
>>>>>>>> might want to look there to see why you are trying to schedule work on a
>>>>>>>> CPU which should be perfectly fine for you to already be doing your work on.
>>>>>>> it always try to go with local cpu with same pxm.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The problem is we really shouldn't be calling work_for_cpu in this case
>>>>>> since we are already on the correct CPU.  What probably should be
>>>>>> happening is that pci_call_probe should be doing a check to see if the
>>>>>> current CPU is already contained within the device node map and if so
>>>>>> just call local_pci_probe directly.  That way you can avoid deadlocking
>>>>>> the system by trying to flush the CPU queue of the CPU you are currently on.
>>>>>>
>>>>> That's the patch that Michael Tsirkin posted for a fix,
>>>>> but it was noted that if you have the case where the _same_ driver is used for vf & pf,
>>>>> other deadlocks may occur.
>>>>> It would work in the case of ixgbe/ixgbevf, but not for something like
>>>>> the Mellanox pf/vf driver (which is the same).
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I think our conclusion was this is a false positive for Mellanox.
>>>> If not, we need to understand what the deadlock is better.
>>>>
>>>
>>> As I understand the issue, the problem is not a deadlock for Mellanox
>>> (At least with either your patch or mine applied), the issue is that the
>>> PF is not ready to handle VFs when pci_enable_sriov is called due to
>>> some firmware issues.


>> I haven't seen Mellanox guys say anything like this on the list. Pointers?
>> All I saw is some lockdep warnings and Tejun says they are bogus ...
>
> Actually the patch I submitted is at:
> https://patchwork.kernel.org/patch/2568881/
>
> It was in response to:
> https://patchwork.kernel.org/patch/2562471/
>
> Basically the patch I was responding to was supposed to address both the
> lockdep issue and a problem with mlx4 not being able to support the VFs
> when pci_enable_sriov is called.  Yinghai had specifically called out
> the work_on_cpu lockdep issue that you also submitted a patch for.
>
> As per the feedback from Yinghai it seems like my patch does resolve the
> lockdep issue that was seen.  The other half of the issue was what we
> have been discussing with Or in regards to delaying VF driver init via
> something like -EPROBE_DEFER instead of trying to split up
> pci_enable_sriov and VF probe.


Hi Alex, all, so to clarify:

1. currently due to current firmware limitation we must call
pci_enable_sriov before the
PF ends its initialization sequence done in the PCI probe callback, hence

2. we can't move to the new sysfs API for enabling SRIOV

3. as of 3.9-rc1 we see these nested brobes, bisected that to be as of
commit 90888ac01d059e38ffe77a2291d44cafa9016fb "driver core: fix
possible missing of device probe". But we didn't reach into consensus
with the author that this wasn't possible before the commit, nor this
is something that needs to be avoided, see
http://marc.info/?t=136249697200007&r=1&w=2

4. I am not sure if/how we can modify the PF code to support the case
where VFs are probed and start thier initialization sequence before
the PF is done with its initialization

5. etc

all in all, we will look into returning  -EPROBE_DEFER from the VF
when they identify the problematic situation -- so for how much time
this is deferred? or if this isn't time based what the logical
condition which once met the VF probe is attempted again?


Or.
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