Date:	Tue, 4 Jun 2013 09:37:54 +0800
From:	Ying Xue <ying.xue@...driver.com>
To:	Neil Horman <nhorman@...driver.com>
CC:	Paul Gortmaker <paul.gortmaker@...driver.com>,
	David Miller <davem@...emloft.net>, <netdev@...r.kernel.org>,
	Jon Maloy <jon.maloy@...csson.com>,
	Erik Hugne <erik.hugne@...csson.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next 01/12] tipc: change socket buffer overflow control
 to respect sk_rcvbuf

On 06/03/2013 09:16 PM, Neil Horman wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 03, 2013 at 05:55:06PM +0800, Ying Xue wrote:
>> On 05/31/2013 09:36 PM, Neil Horman wrote:
>>> On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 03:36:06PM -0400, Paul Gortmaker wrote:
>>>> From: Jon Maloy <jon.maloy@...csson.com>
>>>>
>>>> As per feedback from the netdev community, we change the buffer
>>>> overflow protection algorithm in receiving sockets so that it
>>>> always respects the nominal upper limit set in sk_rcvbuf.
>>>>
>>>> Instead of scaling up from a small sk_rcvbuf value, which leads to
>>>> violation of the configured sk_rcvbuf limit, we now calculate the
>>>> weighted per-message limit by scaling down from a much bigger value,
>>>> still in the same field, according to the importance priority of the
>>>> received message.
>>>>
>>>> Cc: Neil Horman <nhorman@...driver.com>
>>>> Signed-off-by: Jon Maloy <jon.maloy@...csson.com>
>>>> Signed-off-by: Paul Gortmaker <paul.gortmaker@...driver.com>
>>>> ---
>>>>  net/tipc/socket.c | 13 +++++++------
>>>>  1 file changed, 7 insertions(+), 6 deletions(-)
>>>>
>>>> diff --git a/net/tipc/socket.c b/net/tipc/socket.c
>>>> index 515ce38..2dfabc7 100644
>>>> --- a/net/tipc/socket.c
>>>> +++ b/net/tipc/socket.c
>>>> @@ -1,7 +1,7 @@
>>>>  /*
>>>>   * net/tipc/socket.c: TIPC socket API
>>>>   *
>>>> - * Copyright (c) 2001-2007, 2012 Ericsson AB
>>>> + * Copyright (c) 2001-2007, 2012-2013, Ericsson AB
>>>>   * Copyright (c) 2004-2008, 2010-2012, Wind River Systems
>>>>   * All rights reserved.
>>>>   *
>>>> @@ -203,6 +203,7 @@ static int tipc_create(struct net *net, struct socket *sock, int protocol,
>>>>  
>>>>  	sock_init_data(sock, sk);
>>>>  	sk->sk_backlog_rcv = backlog_rcv;
>>>> +	sk->sk_rcvbuf = CONN_OVERLOAD_LIMIT;
>>> The last time Jon and I discussed this, I thought the consensus was to export
>>> sk_rcvbuf via its own sysctl, or tie it to sysctl_rmem (while requiring a
>>> protocol specific minimum on top of that), so administrators on memory
>>> constrained systems didn't wonder why their sysctl changes weren't being
>>> honored.
>>
>> Yes, your suggestion is reasonable, and I prefer to involve
>> net.tipc.sysctl_rmem. But I have one question about it:
>>
>> As you suggested as belows, the default value of sk->sk_rcvbuf is set to
>> sk->sk_rcvbuf >> 4 << msg_importance(TIPC_CRITICAL_IMPORTANCE), that is,
>> sk->sk_rcvbuf is about 32MB.
>>
>> However, please see below code:
>>
>> int sock_setsockopt()
>> {
>> ...
>> 	        case SO_RCVBUF:
>>                 /* Don't error on this BSD doesn't and if you think
>>                  * about it this is right. Otherwise apps have to
>>                  * play 'guess the biggest size' games. RCVBUF/SNDBUF
>>                  * are treated in BSD as hints
>>                  */
>>                 val = min_t(u32, val, sysctl_rmem_max);
>> set_rcvbuf:
>>                 sk->sk_userlocks |= SOCK_RCVBUF_LOCK;
>>                 /*
>>                  * We double it on the way in to account for
>>                  * "struct sk_buff" etc. overhead.   Applications
>>                  * assume that the SO_RCVBUF setting they make will
>>                  * allow that much actual data to be received on that
>>                  * socket.
>>                  *
>>                  * Applications are unaware that "struct sk_buff" and
>>                  * other overheads allocate from the receive buffer
>>                  * during socket buffer allocation.
>>                  *
>>                  * And after considering the possible alternatives,
>>                  * returning the value we actually used in getsockopt
>>                  * is the most desirable behavior.
>>                  */
>>                 sk->sk_rcvbuf = max_t(u32, val * 2, SOCK_MIN_RCVBUF);
>>                 break;
>> ...
>> }
>>
>> From above logic of setting sk->sk_rcvbuf with SO_RCVBUF, it only
>> permits the maximum value of sk->sk_rcvbuf to sysctl_rmem_max * 2(ie,
>> about 400KB normally).
>>
>> So, even if the default value of sk->sk_rcvbuf is set to 32MB with
>> net.tipc.sysctl_rmem, a bit smaller value than the default value can
>> never be set to sk->sk_rcvbuf successfully with SO_RCVBUF option.
>>
>> How can we avoid the limit?
>>
> By administratively adjusting sysctl_rmem_max to be a sufficiently large value
> such that using SO_RCVBUF won't be clamed to a lower limit.
> 
> If you don't want to force users to have to manually adjust the sysctl, there
> might be support for you to automatically update sysctl_rmem_max in your
> tipc_init routine, and print an informational message indicating that tipc
> requires the additional space (although I still maintain its not strictly
> needed, but thats another argument).
> 

Thanks for your clear clarification.

I also have the same concern. If we override sysctl_rmem_max in
tipc_init() with a larger value, I am afraid that other guys will oppose
the behaviour.

The truth is that little TIPC user adjusts the sk->sk_rcvbuf with
SO_RCVBUF option in practice. If he really wants to do, he should follow
your suggestion he manually enlarges the sysctl.

OK, I will rewrite the patch with your suggestion.

Regards,
Ying

> Neil
> 
> 
> 

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