netdev - Re: Is fallback vhost_net to qemu for live migrate available？

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Message-ID: <522403A9.9020007@redhat.com>
Date:	Mon, 02 Sep 2013 11:19:05 +0800
From:	Jason Wang <jasowang@...hat.com>
To:	Qin Chuanyu <qinchuanyu@...wei.com>
CC:	Anthony Liguori <anthony@...emonkey.ws>,
	"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@...hat.com>,
	KVM list <kvm@...r.kernel.org>, netdev@...r.kernel.org,
	qianhuibin@...wei.com,
	"xen-devel@...ts.xen.org" <xen-devel@...ts.xen.org>,
	wangfuhai@...wei.com, likunyun@...wei.com, liuyongan@...wei.com,
	liuyingdong@...wei.com
Subject: Re: Is fallback vhost_net to qemu for live migrate available？

On 08/31/2013 12:45 PM, Qin Chuanyu wrote:
> On 2013/8/30 0:08, Anthony Liguori wrote:
>> Hi Qin,
>
>>> By change the memory copy and notify mechanism ，currently
>>> virtio-net with
>>> vhost_net could run on Xen with good performance。
>>
>> I think the key in doing this would be to implement a property
>> ioeventfd and irqfd interface in the driver domain kernel.  Just
>> hacking vhost_net with Xen specific knowledge would be pretty nasty
>> IMHO.
>>
> Yes, I add a kernel module which persist virtio-net pio_addr and msix
> address as what kvm module did. Guest wake up vhost thread by adding a
> hook func in evtchn_interrupt.
>
>> Did you modify the front end driver to do grant table mapping or is
>> this all being done by mapping the domain's memory?
>>
> There is nothing changed in front end driver. Currently I use
> alloc_vm_area to get address space， and map the domain's memory as
> what what qemu did.
>
>> KVM and Xen represent memory in a very different way.  KVM can only
>> track when guest mode code dirties memory.  It relies on QEMU to track
>> when guest memory is dirtied by QEMU.  Since vhost is running outside
>> of QEMU, vhost also needs to tell QEMU when it has dirtied memory.
>>
>> I don't think this is a problem with Xen though.  I believe (although
>> could be wrong) that Xen is able to track when either the domain or
>> dom0 dirties memory.
>>
>> So I think you can simply ignore the dirty logging with vhost and it
>> should Just Work.
>>
> Thanks for your advice, I have tried it, without ping, it could
> migrate successfully, but if there has skb been received, domU would
> crash. I guess that because though Xen track domU memory, but it could
> only track memory that changed in DomU. memory changed by Dom0 is out
> of control.
>
>>
>> No, we don't have a mechanism to fallback  to QEMU for the datapath.
>> It would be possible but I think it's a bad idea to mix and match the
>> two.
>>
> Next I would try to fallback datapath to qemu for three reason:
> 1: memory translate mechanism has been changed for vhost_net on
> Xen，so there would be some necessary changed needed for vhost_log in
> kernel.
>
> 2: I also maped IOREQ_PFN page(which is used for communication between
> qemu and Xen) in kernel notify module, so it also needed been marked
> as dirty when tx/rx exist in migrate period.
>
> 3: Most important of all， Michael S. Tsirkin said that he hadn't
> considered about vhost_net migrate on Xen，so there would be some
> changed needed in vhost_log for qemu.
>
> fallback to qemu seems to much easier, isn't it.

Maybe we can just stop vhost_net in pre_save() and enable it in
post_load()? Then no need to use enable the dirty logging of vhost_net.
>
>
> Regards
> Qin chuanyu
>
>

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