netdev - Re: [PATCH nf-next] netfilter: xtables: lightweight process control group matching

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Message-ID: <5255AAB1.5000802@redhat.com>
Date:	Wed, 09 Oct 2013 21:12:49 +0200
From:	Daniel Borkmann <dborkman@...hat.com>
To:	Tejun Heo <tj@...nel.org>
CC:	pablo@...filter.org, netfilter-devel@...r.kernel.org,
	netdev@...r.kernel.org, cgroups@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH nf-next] netfilter: xtables: lightweight process control
 group matching

On 10/09/2013 07:04 PM, Tejun Heo wrote:
> Hello,
>
> On Tue, Oct 08, 2013 at 10:05:02AM +0200, Daniel Borkmann wrote:
>> Could you elaborate on "Wouldn't it be more logical to implement netfilter
>> rule to match the target cgroup paths?". I don't think (or hope) you mean
>> some string comparison on the dentry path here? :) With our proposal, we
>> have in the network stack's critical path only the following code that is
>> being executed here to match the cgroup ...
>
> Comparing path each time obviously doesn't make sense but you can
> determine the cgroup on config and hold onto the pointer while the
> rule exists.
>
>> ... where ``info->id == skb->sk->sk_cgrp_fwid'' is the actual work, so very
>> lightweight, which is good for high loads (1Gbit/s, 10Gbit/s and beyond), of
>> course. Also, it would be intuitive for admins familiar with other subsystems
>> to just set up and use these cgroup ids in iptabels. I'm not yet quite sure
>> how your suggestion would look like, so you would need to setup some "dummy"
>> subgroups first just to have a path that you can match on?
>
> Currently, it's tricky because we have multiple hierarchies to
> consider and there isn't an efficient way to map from task to cgroup
> on a specific hierarchy.  I'm not sure whether we should add another
> mapping table in css_set or just allow using path matching on the
> unified hierarchy.  The latter should be cleaner and easier but more
> restrictive.
>
> Anyways, it isn't manageable in the long term to keep adding
> controllers simply to tag tasks differently.  If we want to do this,
> let's please work on a way to match a task's cgroup affiliation
> efficiently.

Agreed, let us solve that first, and then I go back to the netfilter module
to bring netfilter and cgroups together.

Thanks,

Daniel
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