netdev - Re: [PATCH nf-next] netfilter: xtables: lightweight process control group matching

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Message-ID: <526231E0.6060903@redhat.com>
Date:	Sat, 19 Oct 2013 09:16:48 +0200
From:	Daniel Borkmann <dborkman@...hat.com>
To:	"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@...ssion.com>
CC:	pablo@...filter.org, netfilter-devel@...r.kernel.org,
	netdev@...r.kernel.org, Tejun Heo <tj@...nel.org>,
	cgroups@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH nf-next] netfilter: xtables: lightweight process control
 group matching

On 10/19/2013 01:21 AM, Eric W. Biederman wrote:

> I am coming to this late.  But two concrete suggestions.
>
> 1) process groups and sessions don't change as frequently as pids.
>
> 2) It is possible to put a set of processes in their own network
>     namespace and pipe just the packets you want those processes to
>     use into that network namespace.  Using an ingress queueing filter
>     makes that process very efficient even if you have to filter by port.

Actually in our case we're filtering outgoing traffic, based on which
local socket that originated from; so you wouldn't need all of that
construct. Also, you wouldn't even need to have an a-prio knowledge of
the application internals regarding their use of particular use of ports
or protocols. I don't think that such a setup will have the same
efficiency, ease of use, and power to distinguish the application the
traffic came from in such a lightweight, protocol independent and easy way.
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