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Message-ID: <20131101091337.GA27063@gmail.com>
Date:	Fri, 1 Nov 2013 10:13:37 +0100
From:	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...nel.org>
To:	Neil Horman <nhorman@...driver.com>
Cc:	Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@...il.com>,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, sebastien.dugue@...l.net,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...hat.com>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@...or.com>, x86@...nel.org,
	netdev@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] x86: Run checksumming in parallel accross multiple alu's


* Neil Horman <nhorman@...driver.com> wrote:

> On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 11:22:00AM +0100, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> > 
> > * Neil Horman <nhorman@...driver.com> wrote:
> > 
> > > > etc. For such short runtimes make sure the last column displays 
> > > > close to 100%, so that the PMU results become trustable.
> > > > 
> > > > A nehalem+ PMU will allow 2-4 events to be measured in parallel, 
> > > > plus generics like 'cycles', 'instructions' can be added 'for free' 
> > > > because they get counted in a separate (fixed purpose) PMU register.
> > > > 
> > > > The last colum tells you what percentage of the runtime that 
> > > > particular event was actually active. 100% (or empty last column) 
> > > > means it was active all the time.
> > > > 
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > 
> > > > 	Ingo
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > Hmm, 
> > > 
> > > I ran this test:
> > > 
> > > for i in `seq 0 1 3`
> > > do
> > > echo $i > /sys/module/csum_test/parameters/module_test_mode
> > > taskset -c 0 perf stat --repeat 20 -C 0 -e L1-dcache-load-misses -e L1-dcache-prefetches -e cycles -e instructions -ddd ./test.sh
> > > done
> > 
> > You need to remove '-ddd' which is a shortcut for a ton of useful 
> > events, but here you want to use fewer events, to increase the 
> > precision of the measurement.
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > 
> > 	Ingo
> > 
> 
> Thank you ingo, that fixed it.  I'm trying some other variants of 
> the csum algorithm that Doug and I discussed last night, but FWIW, 
> the relative performance of the 4 test cases 
> (base/prefetch/parallel/both) remains unchanged. I'm starting to 
> feel like at this point, theres very little point in doing 
> parallel alu operations (unless we can find a way to break the 
> dependency on the carry flag, which is what I'm tinkering with 
> now).

I would still like to encourage you to pick up the improvements that 
Doug measured (mostly via prefetch tweaking?) - that looked like 
some significant speedups that we don't want to lose!

Also, trying to stick the in-kernel implementation into 'perf bench' 
would be a useful first step as well, for this and future efforts.

See what we do in tools/perf/bench/mem-memcpy-x86-64-asm.S to pick 
up the in-kernel assembly memcpy implementations:

#define memcpy MEMCPY /* don't hide glibc's memcpy() */
#define altinstr_replacement text
#define globl p2align 4; .globl
#define Lmemcpy_c globl memcpy_c; memcpy_c
#define Lmemcpy_c_e globl memcpy_c_e; memcpy_c_e

#include "../../../arch/x86/lib/memcpy_64.S"

So it needed a bit of trickery/wrappery for 'perf bench mem memcpy', 
but that is a one-time effort - once it's done then the current 
in-kernel csum_partial() implementation would be easily measurable 
(and any performance regression in it bisectable, etc.) from that 
point on.

In user-space it would also be easier to add various parameters and 
experimental implementations and background cache-stressing 
workloads automatically.

Something similar might be possible for csum_partial(), 
csum_partial_copy*(), etc.

Note, if any of you ventures to add checksum-benchmarking to perf 
bench, please base any patches on top of tip:perf/core:

  git pull git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/tip/tip.git perf/core

as there are a couple of perf bench enhancements in the pipeline 
already for v3.13.

Thanks,

	Ingo
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