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Date:	Fri, 8 Nov 2013 17:39:22 -0000
From:	"David Laight" <David.Laight@...LAB.COM>
To:	"Alan Stern" <stern@...land.harvard.edu>,
	"Sarah Sharp" <sarah.a.sharp@...ux.intel.com>
Cc:	<netdev@...r.kernel.org>, <linux-usb@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: RE: [PATCH] usb: xhci: Link TRB must not occur with a USB payload burst.



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Alan Stern [mailto:stern@...land.harvard.edu]
> Sent: 08 November 2013 16:46
> To: Sarah Sharp
> Cc: David Laight; netdev@...r.kernel.org; linux-usb@...r.kernel.org
> Subject: Re: [PATCH] usb: xhci: Link TRB must not occur with a USB payload burst.
> 
> On Thu, 7 Nov 2013, Sarah Sharp wrote:
> 
> > On Thu, Nov 07, 2013 at 05:20:49PM -0000, David Laight wrote:
> > >
> > > Section 4.11.7.1 of rev 1.0 of the xhci specification states that a link TRB
> > > can only occur at a boundary between underlying USB frames (512 bytes for 480M).
> >
> > Which version of the spec are you looking at?  I'm looking at the
> > updated version from 08/2012 and I don't see any such requirement.
> >
> > I do see that section says "A TD Fragment shall not span Transfer Ring
> > Segments" where a TD fragment is defined as exact multiples of Max Burst
> > Size * Max Packet Size bytes for the endpoint.  Is that what you mean
> > about USB frames?
> 
> ...
> 
> > The driver would also have to make sure that TD fragments didn't have
> > link TRBs in them.  That's an issue, since the spec decidedly unclear
> > about what exactly comprises a TD fragment.  Is the xHC host greedy, and
> > will lump all multiples into one TD fragment?  Or will it assume the TD
> > fragment has ended once it consumes one multiple of Max Burst Size * Max
> > Packet Size bytes?
> >
> > This ambiguity means it's basically impossible to figure out whether a
> > TD with a link TRB in the middle is constructed properly.  The xHCI spec
> > architect didn't have a good solution to this problem, so I punted and
> > never implemented TD fragments.  If this is really an issue, it's going
> > to be pretty complex to solve.
> 
> This is something I wanted to ask you about also.
> 
> The whole idea of TD fragments is exceedingly cloudy.  The definition
> doesn't make sense, and the spec doesn't say what the actual hardware
> restrictions are, i.e., what is the underlying reality that the TD
> fragment concept wants to express.

I think that a TD fragment boundary exists whenever a TRB/dma boundary
lines up with the packet boundary.

> Even if you do your best to ignore the whole idea, there still appear
> to be certain restrictions you need to obey.  In addition to the
> question of where Link TRBs are allowed, you also have to worry about
> TDs whose size isn't a multiple of the Max Burst Payload (MBP) size =
> MaxBurstSize * MaxPacketSize.

I'm not certain what MaxBurstSize and MaxPacketSize are, but the important
number is the MBP. I'm fairly sure that is the value returned by
GET_MAX_PACKET() - 1024 for USB3 bulk endpoints.

> According to my version of the spec (Rev 1.0, dated 5/21/2010), if a TD
> is larger than the MBP and its length isn't a multiple of the MBP, then
> the last MBP boundary in the TD must also be a TRB boundary.  This
> follows from two statements in section 4.11.7.1:
> 
> 	If the TD Transfer Size is an even multiple of the MBP then all
> 	TD Fragments shall define exact multiples of MBP data bytes.
> 	If not, then only the last TD Fragment shall define less than
> 	MBP data (or the Residue) bytes.

No, that doesn't stop there being only 1 TD fragment.
(I think it means exact multiple of the MBP.)

> So if a TD is longer than MBP then it must contain at least two TD
> fragments, and the last fragment must consist of the last Residue
> bytes (i.e., the bytes beyond the last MBP boundary).
> 
> 	Each TD Fragment is comprised of one or more TRBs.
> 
> Hence the last MBP boundary in the TD, which marks the beginning of the
> last TD fragment, must also be a TRB boundary.
> 
> I have no idea whether violating this restriction will cause trouble
> for real hardware.

Violating the one for LINK TRBs is definitely a problem.

	David



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