netdev - Re: [PATCH net-next] veth: extend features to support tunneling

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Message-ID: <CAJZOPZJGithUYAdCnKzG4q1MsntMo0GaUHqHf7sa6N0MpKk5+Q@mail.gmail.com>
Date:	Sun, 17 Nov 2013 23:20:02 +0200
From:	Or Gerlitz <or.gerlitz@...il.com>
To:	Alexei Starovoitov <ast@...mgrid.com>
Cc:	Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@...il.com>,
	David Miller <davem@...emloft.net>,
	Eric Dumazet <edumazet@...gle.com>,
	Stephen Hemminger <stephen@...workplumber.org>,
	"netdev@...r.kernel.org" <netdev@...r.kernel.org>,
	"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@...hat.com>,
	John Fastabend <john.r.fastabend@...el.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next] veth: extend features to support tunneling

On Sun, Nov 17, 2013 , Alexei Starovoitov <ast@...mgrid.com> wrote:
> On Sun, Nov 17, 2013 , Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@...il.com> wrote:
>> On Sat, 2013-11-16 , Alexei Starovoitov wrote:

>>> In case of VMs sending gso packets over tap and tunnel in the host,
>>> ip_forward is not in the picture.

>> I was specifically answering to #2 which should use ip forwarding, of
>> course. Note that my patch was a POC : We have many other places where
>> the typical MTU check is simply disabled as soon as skb is GSO.

> I don't think #2 will do ip_forward either. veth goes into a bridge
> and vxlan just adds encap.

Eric, do we have concensus here that this #2 of veth --> bridge -->
vxlan --> NIC will not go through ip_forward?!

Anyway, I tried your patch and didn't see notable improvement on my
tests. The tests I did few days ago were over 3.10.19 to have more
stable ground... moving to 3.12.0 and net-next today, the baseline
performance became worse, in the sense that if a bit of simplified env
of bridge --> vxlan --> NIC with many iperf client threads yielded
similar throughput as vxlan --> NIC or bridge --> NIC, with net-next
its not the case. If you have 10Gbs or 40Gbs NICs, even without HW TCP
offloads for VXLAN, you might be able to see that on your setups.
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