netdev - Re: [PATCH net-next RFC 0/5] xen-netback: TX grant mapping instead of copy

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Message-ID: <52977F5C.7090703@citrix.com>
Date:	Thu, 28 Nov 2013 17:37:32 +0000
From:	Zoltan Kiss <zoltan.kiss@...rix.com>
To:	Ian Campbell <Ian.Campbell@...rix.com>
CC:	<wei.liu2@...rix.com>, <xen-devel@...ts.xenproject.org>,
	<netdev@...r.kernel.org>, <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	<jonathan.davies@...rix.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next RFC 0/5] xen-netback: TX grant mapping instead
 of copy

On 07/11/13 10:52, Ian Campbell wrote:
> On Fri, 2013-11-01 at 19:00 +0000, Zoltan Kiss wrote:
>> On 01/11/13 10:50, Ian Campbell wrote:
>>> Does this always avoid copying when bridging/openvswitching/forwarding
>>> (e.g. masquerading etc)? For both domU->domU and domU->physical NIC?
>> I've tested the domU->domU, domU->physical with bridge and openvswitch
>> usecase, and now I've created a new stat counter to see how often copy
>> happens (the callback's second parameter tells you whether the skb was
>> freed or copied). It doesn't do copy in all of these scenarios.
>> What do you mean by forwarding? The scenario when you use bridge and
>> iptables mangling with the packet, not just filtering?
>
> I mean using L3 routing rather L2 bridging. Which might involve
> NAT/MASQUERADE or might just be normal IP routing.
I still couldn't find time to try out this scenario, but I think in this 
case packet goes through deliver_skb, which means it will get copied. So 
performance would be a bit worse due to the extra map/unmap. And I'm 
afraid we can't help that too much due to this:
https://lkml.org/lkml/2012/7/20/363
However I think using Dom0 as a router/firewall is already a suboptimal 
solution, so maybe a small performance regression is acceptable?
Anyway, I will try this out, and see if it really copies everything, and 
get some numbers as well.

>>> How does it deal with broadcast traffic?
Now I had time to check it: broadcast packets get copied only once, when 
cloning happens. It will swap out the frags with local ones, so any 
subsequent cloning will have a local SKB.

Zoli
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