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Date:	Wed, 4 Dec 2013 17:16:58 +0800
From:	Ding Tianhong <dingtianhong@...wei.com>
To:	Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@...il.com>
CC:	David Miller <davem@...emloft.net>, <gaofeng@...fujitsu.com>,
	<yoshfuji@...ux-ipv6.org>, <joe@...ches.com>, <vfalico@...hat.com>,
	<netdev@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net] net: neighbour: add neighbour dead check for neigh_timer_handler()

On 2013/12/4 14:27, Eric Dumazet wrote:
> On Wed, 2013-12-04 at 14:19 +0800, Ding Tianhong wrote:
>> On 2013/12/4 12:21, David Miller wrote:
>>> From: Ding Tianhong <dingtianhong@...wei.com>
>>> Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2013 12:04:31 +0800
>>>
>>>> The destroying neigh could be trigger by userspace, just like set the ip address which
>>>> in arp table to the local device ip, some I could not control it, it maybe anytime,
>>>> but the timer handler is execute by logic, this is normal, so I think the logic
>>>> is no problem, and the process of destroying neigh may conflict with the timer handler,
>>>> it is a synchronous problem to make sure the timer should be finished before the
>>>> reference neigh is freed.
>>>
>>> The more I think about this, the more none of the explanations for this bug
>>> make any sense.
>>>
>>> neigh_destroy() _ONLY_ runs when:
>>>
>>> 	if (atomic_dec_and_test(&neigh->refcnt))
>>>
>>> triggers in neigh_release().
>>>
>>> This means it triggers if, and only if, neigh_refcnt goes to zero.
>>>
>>> If the refcnt goes to zero, NO TIMER can be running.  If the timer is
>>> running, then there refcnt must be at least '1'.
>>
>> Hi David:
>>
>> Yes, you are right, but when the timer is running and prior to get the neigh->lock, the refcnt
>> could be dec to 0, you could not stop it by existing mechanism.
>>
>> the refcnt of neighbour could only be inc by these actions:
>>
>> 1.create neighbour, the refcnt will be set to 1.
>> 2.add timer, the refcnt++.
>> 3.neigh_lookup, if found the neigh, refcnt++.
>>
>> I can show the whole process of my analysis:
>>
>> 		CPU 0				CPU 1
>> 		-----				-----
>> 	create_neigh() => refcnt = 1;		
>> 	add timer =>	refcnt++;
>> 						<SOFTIRQ>
>> 						base->running_timer = neigh->timer;
>> 						neigh_timer_handler() => at this time, refcnt is 2;
>>
>> user->	neigh_changeaddr()
>> 	neigh_flush_dev();
>> 	neigh_del_imer, refcnt dec to 1;
> 
> Nope : del_timer() would return 0 here, so we do not decrement refcnt.
> 

The first call for del_timer() will return 1, because the timer->entry.next is not NULL,
then in the neigh_destroy, the del_timer() again will return 0 because timer->entry.next is NULL. 

> I can tell you, if this was not the case, a lot of things would be
> terribly broken, like TCP stack.
> 
>> 	release_neigh(), refcnt is 0,
>> 	destroy_neigh()
>> 	kfree(neighbour);
>> 						write(neigh->lock)
>>
>> So in my opinion, the point of the problem is that I should not kfree the neighbour until
>> the timer is not running on CPUs and not pending.
>>
>> If I miss someghing, pls point out.
> 
> As David explained, if a timer is running, refcnt can not reach 0,
> untill the timer handler finished.
> 
> So _something_ is calling neigh_release(n) without prior neigh_hold()
> 

Maybe I could try to find more about it, but it is hard to reoccur the problem.

Regards
Ding
> 
> 
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