netdev - Re: [PATCH v2] macvlan: Support creating macvtaps from macvlans

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Message-ID: <529F42DC.2060804@gmail.com>
Date:	Wed, 04 Dec 2013 09:57:32 -0500
From:	Vlad Yasevich <vyasevich@...il.com>
To:	Michal Kubecek <mkubecek@...e.cz>
CC:	Kevin Wallace <kevin@...tabarf.net>, netdev@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] macvlan: Support creating macvtaps from macvlans

On 12/04/2013 09:23 AM, Michal Kubecek wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 04, 2013 at 08:59:21AM -0500, Vlad Yasevich wrote:
>> On 12/03/2013 02:47 PM, Michal Kubecek wrote:
>>> On Tue, Dec 03, 2013 at 11:17:37AM -0500, Vlad Yasevich wrote:
>>>>
>>>> the other question is should this be done in a loop?  What happens if
>>>> you have nested namespaces?
>>>
>>> Nested namespaces are not a problem, what would be a problem, would be
>>> having a macvlan (macvtap) device on top of another macvlan. But the
>>> purpose of this particular code is to prevent it and use the underlying
>>> "real" device instead. That's why unlike vlan_dev_real_dev(),
>>> macvlan_dev_real_dev() doesn't need to recurse.
>>
>> Wait,  so you have a namespace that uses macvlan to access the net.
>> That macvlan is configured on top of another macvlan, so you need to
>> get to the lower level device.  I understand that.  What I am asking
>> is that what happens if you have a namespace within a namespace with
>> the same network access restrictions.  The code as is, will think that
>> the first level macvlan is the real device.  Is this setup practical...
> 
> My understanding is this:
> 
> We have eth0, a real ethernet device in init_net. We create a macvlan
> device mv1 on top of it and put it into a namespace, say ns1. Inside
> ns1, we can't see eth0 so that we cannot do
> 
>   ip link add mv2 link eth0 type macvlan mode bridge
> 
> The purpose of this code is to allow
> 
>   ip link add mv2 link mv1 type macvlan mode bridge
> 
> but to use eth0 as lowerdev of mv2 instead. If we then put mv2 into
> another namespace ns2, there is still no problem because its lowerdev is
> also eth0 (even if we cannot see it inside ns2) so that
> 
>   ip link add mv3 link mv2 type macvlan mode bridge
> 
> in fact creates mv3 with lowerdev eth0 again.

I see now, this makes total sense...

> 
> However, what I'm not sure about is whether there is something to
> prevent building e.g. a macvlan on top of a (802.1q) VLAN on top of
> a macvlan.

That looks like it will create a new macvlan port on top of the VLAN
interface and use the VLAN as the lower_dev.  I think it'll still work.

-vlad
> 
>                                                      Michal Kubecek
> 

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