netdev - Re: [PATCH net-next] IPv6: enable TCP to use an anycast address

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Message-ID: <1389538427.32032.YahooMailBasic@web125505.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
Date:	Sun, 12 Jan 2014 06:53:47 -0800 (PST)
From:	François-Xavier Le Bail <fx.lebail@...oo.com>
To:	Alexey Kuznetsov <kuznet@....inr.ac.ru>,
	Hannes Frederic Sowa <hannes@...essinduktion.org>
Cc:	netdev@...r.kernel.org, "David S. Miller" <davem@...emloft.net>,
	James Morris <jmorris@...ei.org>,
	Hideaki Yoshifuji <yoshfuji@...ux-ipv6.org>,
	Patrick McHardy <kaber@...sh.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next] IPv6: enable TCP to use an anycast address

On Sat, 1/11/14, Hannes Frederic Sowa <hannes@...essinduktion.org> wrote:

> On Sat, Jan 11, 2014 at 05:38:27PM +0400, Alexey Kuznetsov wrote:
> > On Sat, Jan 11, 2014 at 5:06 PM, François-Xavier Le Bail
> > <fx.lebail@...oo.com> wrote:
> > > Many DNS root-servers use TCP with anycast (IPv4 and IPV6).
> > 
> > Actually, I was alerted by reset processing in your patch, it cannot be right.
> > 
> > Do not you think this must not be enabled for common use? At least
> > some separate sysctl disabled by default.

> The idea I had, was, that if a socket does knowingly bind to an anycast
> address, it is allowed to do so and process queries on it with both TCP and
> UDP. I don't think we need a sysctl for that? Anycast addresses are either
> pre-defined (e.g. the subnet router anycast address) or specified by a flag
> when the administrator adds one. Currently one can only add anycast addresses
> either by forwarding and gets the per-subnet anycast address or with a
> setsockopt IPV6_JOIN_ANYCAST.

> So the problem is what should be allowed when the socket listens on an any
> address? Maybe this should be protected by a sysctl?

Hi,

TCP case:
With my two patches (the one for bind and this one for tcp), when a
SOCK_STREAM socket listen to in6addr_any, the server is able to 
send TCP reply with unicast or anycast source address, according
to the destination address used by the client.

dest request unicast => src reply unicast (current behavior)
dest resquet anycast => src reply anycast (new)

So, I don't think there is a need for a sysctl.

UDP case:
By default (no socket option), the server program don't know the
destination address of the request. The ipv6_dev_get_saddr() is 
used for choosing the unicast source address of the reply.

I am not sure a change is needed here.

When using IPV6_RECVPKTINFO, a server is able to know
the destination address of the request and can use it as source
address for the reply.
To enable anycast for this (don't get EINVAL), there is need for
a patch like the one I posted ("IPv6: add option to use anycast
addresses as source addresses for datagrams").
I am working on a v2.

With the appropriate change:
dest request unicast => src reply unicast (current behavior)
dest resquet anycast => src reply anycast (new)

I don't think, there either, there is a need for a sysctl.

What do you think about it?

BR,
Francois-Xavier
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