lists  /  announce  owl-users  owl-dev  john-users  john-dev  passwdqc-users  yescrypt  popa3d-users  /  oss-security  kernel-hardening  musl  sabotage  tlsify  passwords  /  crypt-dev  xvendor  /  Bugtraq  Full-Disclosure  linux-kernel  linux-netdev  linux-ext4  PHC 
Open Source and information security mailing list archives
Hash Suite: Windows password security audit tool. GUI, reports in PDF.
[<prev] [next>] [<thread-prev] [thread-next>] [day] [month] [year] [list]
Date:	Fri, 17 Jan 2014 10:24:12 +0200 (EET)
From:	Julian Anastasov <>
To:	gregory hoggarth <>
Subject: Re: Linux kernel patch: elide fib_validate_source() completely when
 possible - bad side effect?


On Fri, 17 Jan 2014, gregory hoggarth wrote:

> Hi,
> I work for Allied Telesis, a company that manufactures and sells routers and switches.
> Earlier in the year we upgraded the linux kernel on our L3 switch firmware to v3.6.2 which includes this patch. Our testers have picked up a change in behaviour which I have traced back to this patch and I'd like to get comments on whether this is a bug or not.
> We found that in a configuration with a device under test (DUT) that has an IP address / 24, sending an ICMP echo request with a source IP address of will now be accepted by the DUT, which will send an ICMP echo reply back to the address with a broadcast MAC address of FFFF.FFFF.FFFF, meaning any other devices in the L2 domain will pick up and process the ICMP reply.


> Initially we were thinking that a device configured with / 23 sending a ping to / 24 should expect to get a reply, even though this is somewhat of a misconfiguration in that the subnets aren't matching and that some things may not work properly. For example ping from a device with IP address would behave correctly, so it seemed correct that a ping from should also work properly. However it appears that some other part of the kernel is detecting that the echo reply packet sent by the DUT has a destination IP address of the subnet broadcast, so instead of sending it with a unicast MAC address it sends it with the broadcast MAC address, which means all other devices on the subnet would process the ICMP echo reply. This therefore makes it seem like the ICMP echo request should have been dropped in the first place.
> The patch added the "if (!r && !fib_num_tclassid_users)" check to fib_validate_source, which for our devices evaluates to true, hence returning early and the source address check inside __fib_validate_source is not carried out.
> Does anyone have comments as to what the correct behaviour should be in this case, and whether this is an unexpected side-effect from the patch or not?

	It seems only __fib_validate_source can reject all kind
of broadcast addresses in saddr. ip_route_input_slow() rejects
only the well known broadcasts. Without rp_filter may be we
can at least drop attempts to send replies back to broadcast
addresses? For example, checking result of ip_route_output_key() in

	if (rt->rt_flags & (RTCF_BROADCAST | RTCF_MULTICAST))
		=> ip_rt_put()

	For icmp_send() in icmp_route_lookup() ?

	For TCP in inet_csk_route_req() ?

	I did not checked all places...


Julian Anastasov <>
To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe netdev" in
the body of a message to
More majordomo info at

Powered by blists - more mailing lists