netdev - Re: [RFC][PATCH] audit: Simplify by assuming the callers socket buffer is large enough

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Message-ID: <1394488666.17193.16.camel@localhost>
Date:	Mon, 10 Mar 2014 17:57:46 -0400
From:	Eric Paris <eparis@...hat.com>
To:	David Miller <davem@...emloft.net>
Cc:	ebiederm@...ssion.com, sgrubb@...hat.com, rgb@...hat.com,
	netdev@...r.kernel.org, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	linux-audit@...hat.com, akpm@...ux-foundation.org
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH] audit: Simplify by assuming the callers socket
 buffer is large enough

On Mon, 2014-03-10 at 15:30 -0400, David Miller wrote:
> From: Eric Paris <eparis@...hat.com>
> Date: Fri, 07 Mar 2014 17:52:02 -0500
> 
> > The second user Eric patched, audit_send_list(), can grow without bound.
> > The number of skb's is going to be the size of the number of audit rules
> > that root loaded.  We run the list of rules, generate an skb per rule,
> > and add all of them to an skb_buff_head.  We then pass the skb_buff_head
> > to a kthread so that current will be able to read/drain the socket.
> > There really is no limit to how big the skb_buff_head could possibly
> > grow.  This doesn't necessarily absolutely have to be lossless but it
> > can actually quite reasonably be a whole lot of data that needs to get
> > sent.  I know of no way to deliver unbounded lengths of data to the
> > current task via netlink without blocking on more space in the socket.
> > Even if the socket rmem was MAX_INT, how can we deliver more?  The rule
> > size is unbounded.  How do I get an unbounded amount of data onto this
> > side of the socket when I have to generate it all during the request...
> 
> This is what netlink dumps  are for.  It is how we are able to dump
> routing tables with millions of routes to userspace.
> 
> By using normal netlink requests and netlink_unicast() for this, you
> are ignoring an entire mechanism in netlink designed specifically to
> handle this kind of situation.
> 
> Netlink dumps track state and build one or more SKBs (as necessary),
> one by one, to form the reply.  It implements flow control, state
> tracking for iteration, optimized SKB sizing and allocation, etc.

Awesome.  I'll see what I can find!


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